March 11, 2022

young + creatives

Identity Crisis: Am I Where I’m Supposed to Be?

Welcome back to the young+creatives podcast! This week on young+creatives we were able to sit down with all the ladies of Revision, Christian Payton, Sarah Haines, and Mikayla Anderson.

In this episode of young+creatives, we cover several key topics including:

What is your Dream Job? (1:45)

How are you challenging yourself to get closer to your Dream Job? (9:10)

Taking your passions and serving them with your Talent (18:00)

Identity crisis: Am I where I’m supposed to be? (20:19)

“I want to change the world” mindset (23:20)

Am I too hard on myself, or am I lazy? (27:15)

Constant Comparision (31:02)

“If it doesn’t make you nervous, you shouldn’t do it.”(48:59)

Do you have “only one” calling in life? (53:41)

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Sarah Haines  00:00

On this week’s podcast of young creatives, we talk with Mikayla, Christian and myself about our dream jobs if we have dream jobs and what we do to prep for them, Hope y’all enjoy.

 

Christian Payton  00:11

Here our vision marketing group, our team of young professionals get it. Created with youth in mind, we strive to educate, inspire and promote authentic creativity across all job fields. This is young

 

Mikayla Anderson  00:23

creatives. Alright guys, welcome back to the young creatives Podcast. Today, we have the three revision ladies, which we have never had before on the podcast, which is super exciting. We have Christian here, and the wonderful Sarah Okay, well, today’s episode, we’re going to go over a couple different things. But the biggest thing that we wanted to touch on is considering like how young we are with being in the job, and I know Christian, this was your first big girl job, quote, unquote, as far as myself to, Sir, is this your first professional industry job?

 

Sarah Haines  01:09

No. Sports spectrum where I work at right now is like a manager and receiving shipping. person. I definitely would say that’s like my first big girl job. Okay. Yeah. But it’s not it’s like up to 40 hours. So I’m not working like over.

 

Mikayla Anderson  01:26

But okay. So with. So you’re still at sports spectrum. So technically, we’re all within our first jobs of being professionals in the industries. So what we kind of wanted to talk about what this episode was essentially, with what we’re learning now in these jobs, whether it be we want to stay in this industry, we don’t obviously, things change. What are we learning here and this specific job field that were in right now that will eventually go to our dream job?

 

Christian Payton  02:14

I’m kidding. So my dream job is to do nonprofit. So any type of nonprofit work? I want to have my own nonprofit in the future. So that’s how does that look? I’m not sure you

 

Mikayla Anderson  02:32

do so with your nonprofit? Is there something you specifically want to gear it towards?

 

Christian Payton  02:37

Um, yeah. I think there are a lot of like, programs for women and children specifically. But I want something for, I want a bunch of stuff. So I want something specifically for like middle school, high school, girls, like girls, really black girls, and like underserved neighborhoods, because there are so many of those.

 

Mikayla Anderson  03:00

Okay. Sara,

 

Sarah Haines  03:03

um, I really don’t know, my dream job is having it for like the last two years have definitely struggle with especially like coming out of college with a degree that at the end of it, I honestly was so tired. And yeah, kind of burnt out a little bit, just because I also only had a very small view of what I could do with that. Yeah. And some of that may have been just like, not having enough confidence in myself, or like wanting to put myself out there. And try something new. I think a lot of it was that, but I just started thinking of more broad ideas of what I could do. And I was considering going back to school, until I started applying to jobs again, because I kind of just felt like I needed to do something new. And I wanted to do like psychology, like criminal psychology, and get my masters in that, which I’m not saying I won’t do that one day, but I don’t know. I like the idea, though, of being interested in several things because it almost sets up where you’re not as disappointed if that one thing doesn’t work out, too. And I also feel like my skills could go to, like, they could go down several different avenues. So what about you? mckaela? No,

 

Mikayla Anderson  04:16

I think that makes sense. I I don’t know if I have a dream job if I’m gonna be honest. Like, I just don’t know if I have like, something I want to do the rest of my life.

 

Christian Payton  04:27

Like if if money wasn’t an option, like what would you do every single day? Like no matter how much you got paid to do it.

 

Mikayla Anderson  04:35

I just don’t know if I like appeal to something. I’m doing the same thing every single day. Like I just like routine is comfortable. But I don’t think I would want to do it for 20 plus years.

 

Christian Payton  04:49

That’s so interesting, though, just to like the shift in like mindsets where I’m like our generation our parents because they don’t understand that at all. Yeah, like I was talking to one of my friends and he was saying that his parents are are so comfortable, as long as he’s like, as long as he has a job. And he’s making like, at least $50,000 a year, his parents are like, okay, and he’s like, but that doesn’t make sense, because I’m not happy. Right? Now a lot of like, everybody older than us doesn’t really get that. Right. When we were talking to someone here at the office hub, I think I told her about me wanting to do nonprofit work, and she was like, asking me about pay. And I was like, I don’t care about pay. And she was like, Yeah, most millennials don’t.

 

Sarah Haines  05:28

I think it’s because one, social medias opened up so many opportunities for us to see people with other kinds of jobs, and then also to make up our own jobs, like things that niches that people wouldn’t even think they would want someone to do that for them. But now, you know, we just want everything now. So we just want somebody to do every different thing, which is awesome. But I think also, it must be that I see my parents like how they raised me to kind of, they wanted me to just be able to take care of myself. And for them, my dad, like worked two jobs that he did not enjoy. And that was because he had four kids, all like within six years of each other. And so for him, it’s just about providing so. And I also feel like people that might even be a little more bitter to when they’re like, that are older than us, they might see it as like, we don’t really have a right to that, like you just need to get work done and work hard. And then maybe you’ll be happy eventually. Like, maybe you can save up money, and then you can you’ll be happy when you retire or something like that. But I think for us, we just see people like having a good time with their jobs and enjoying it. And so it’s like, why would we not want to do that? Yeah,

 

Mikayla Anderson  06:41

yeah, there’s definitely a why do we have to wait until retirement to enjoy life, right?

 

Christian Payton  06:48

Back concepts are insane to me, right? There was this girl

 

Mikayla Anderson  06:53

actually, on Tik Tok. And I’ll find the video but she said that she has a non traditional retirement plan, which and she explained it as she works for four years, she works for however many years, let’s say it’s one, two, however many. And she saves X amount of dollars a month to take a full year off. So if I worked two years, and then I had a year off, I would have to save this amount of money each month to have a sustainable,

 

Christian Payton  07:33

that actually makes a lot of sense to me. Which like,

 

Mikayla Anderson  07:37

I think it’s actually really smart. It just takes a very disciplined person to do that. Yeah.

 

Sarah Haines  07:41

Also someone who’s able to save that much money, like you’d have to have a pretty high paying job to begin with. And then sounds like that person must not have any anxiety. I don’t know. Maybe they’re just really good about you. Because for me, I’d be like, I will run out. And then you got to find a new job after that. Yeah. But I guess if you’re like, good enough at what you do, then yeah, that’s a little bit easier.

 

Mikayla Anderson  08:05

I feel like that’s just like hard because like, depending on like, what job field she’s into, like, if you’re happy at your job. Would you want to quit? Even though you had that plan? Yes. Why?

 

Christian Payton  08:21

I think I’m going to be saying this the whole episode, but I don’t like working. Like I work because I have to do provide for myself. And because society says you like you’re supposed to and you work because like I work personally because I have to like I have bills, I have things that I have to take care of. Does that mean that I don’t enjoy what I do? Absolutely not. But I’m doing this because I have to like I have other things that I have to get done. So this is a must.

 

Sarah Haines  08:49

So like the difference between that and let’s say you had all the money you needed, you would just go volunteer like add a or you just go ahead and start a nonprofit salutely So that wouldn’t feel like work though.

 

Christian Payton  09:05

Okay, yeah.

 

Mikayla Anderson  09:08

So from you having the nonprofit dream, and then you just kind of figuring it out with me. Like, how are whoever wants to take a purse? How are you challenging yourself to potentially get closer to it? Or yeah, I guess just get closer to it in general.

 

Christian Payton  09:33

Um, so before I like had really set in decided that it was like nonprofit that I wanted to do. I was just kind of like all over the place not really knowing. I was like super comfortable. Like where I was, I wasn’t really challenging myself. But like since I’ve decided that it’s like nonprofit that I know that I want to do in the future. I just don’t know like, what avenue or like how it’s gonna look. I started doing the volunteer work with Casa because that’s pretty much me working with children. That’s me like working with social workers and just people in that industry. And just like that way I’ll have like, experience and also like connection as far as, like, when I have questions in the future is it takes like a village of people to put together something like great. So that and then like, even with real estate school I know that I want my own to being able to like, or knowing, just knowing of different areas that have like all these abandoned homes or just yeah, like, again, like that’s just like having like points of references. Because with real estate, I know in the future, opening up like a Hospitality House or friendship home. Being able to know of like these pieces of real estate myself and not having to, like go through a third party will benefit me as well. Right. So like, just pretty much setting myself up in those different areas will help me and my future.

 

Mikayla Anderson  10:56

That’s really smart. I’m not that organizer.

 

Christian Payton  11:00

But none of it, none of it came like on like purpose. I literally woke up January 1 and said, Okay, I’m gonna go to real estate school. And then I wrote the blog for Clean Water Street for for casa. And I was like, this is cool. And then I literally started thinking about it. And then my goal and what I want to do with life, and I was like, this is all aligning, but it wasn’t purposely done. It was just kind of like, oh, this is an interest. I’ll try this. And this is an interest, I’ll try this. And then me just trying out these different things. It’s like, oh, this makes sense, because it’s aligning with what I want to do in the future. Mm hmm. It’s like putting yourself out there. Pretty much.

 

Mikayla Anderson  11:37

Yeah. That’s interesting. How about you,

 

Sarah Haines  11:43

um, I think the putting myself out there in the way of getting this job. And like, also trying to get more involved with like LinkedIn, I have to break out of this bubble, the safety bubble I’ve been in, because it’s not even that safe. Like, I’m not satisfied. I mean, I’m getting more satisfied. Like, ever since I got the second job. I felt so much more like, Okay, I have some kind of direction, at least I’m investing in something that I think I can already do. And so, and also learning new stuff, like I’ve already learned so much new stuff, and refreshing because I’ve gotten very stale with my, like, remembering the programs and like, even stuff about cameras. I’m like, How is it that I’ve forgotten is it’s only been like a year and a half? I feel like that’s not very long. But no, that’s good. So old. Because you’re,

 

Mikayla Anderson  12:35

you’re recognizing it, though, like you’re able to like, see, like, Okay, I’m a little rusty on these cameras. Let me pay extra attention, or ask any these questions to be able to get back into it.

 

Christian Payton  12:51

Have you like, do you? What do you think you’ve been doing to like, help set yourself up for your next path or journey or? Yeah,

 

Mikayla Anderson  13:03

so my third year, I think I had maybe three semesters left of college, I wanted to change to psychology. And my mom was so mad. She was like, you can not change the psychology when you’re this close to graduation. And I did it because it was the safe thing to do. Because I was almost already finished, like I had a year and a half left of school. And so I didn’t do that. And then my entire, almost like, between that year and a half. I tried to start. So there’s this group that I tried to start University of Mary It’s called Active Minds, which essentially, is like student advocates for like mental health on like, campuses across the US. And so being personally affected by mental health, essentially, I had all these things going on in college and the way that the college handled the process was not, it was really messy, and it was not professional. And it was just a lot and I don’t think it was something that they were, like, professionally advised to deal with. And so with this group, like students would advocate for themselves for better resources and better like, just like group support. And so I essentially tried to start it for a year and a half. And it got shot down time after time after time, which was really frustrating and it was like okay, like lots of tears were shed, there was a lot of really good, like, small victories of like, getting in contact with this person and getting approval from this person, but not from this person. And so it was, like a really big, just like up and down roller coaster. And so long story short, the club was never made like, it is what it is. But the things that we were able to accomplish, by trying to start that club, like we were able to get, like the suicide prevention line on the back of their student IDs, and like, just little things, and events that were started, that never would have been able to start unless we started the conversation. And so I think the biggest thing is, is like taking those passions of like, either with like, your nonprofit, you didn’t even like, what are you passionate about? Sarah?

 

Sarah Haines  15:57

I don’t know, I really wanted to work with like, when I was doing my doing the psychology, I really wanted to work with kids who have been, like victims of crimes or have actually, like, committed the crime themselves. So I was really interested in that. But I just always think back to like, how, and I don’t think that religion like were oppressed me as a child, I just see how it has skewed my view of like how the world works. And like, how, you know, I didn’t, I was very, very sheltered. And so I didn’t know a lot, and how now I really struggle with a lot of my mental health because I deal with so much guilt. And a lot of it does have to do with like, my parents religious beliefs, and like how, again, they raised me. So I’m not really sure if that I can kind of push that into something I thought about trying to do counseling, like be a counselor for kids who have like, come out of like, super religious situations. But I’m not really sure. I mean, like, I’m passionate right now I’m passionate about learning to like learning, advertising and understanding how you appeal to people, because it’s something I definitely didn’t learn in school. And like in every business, I mean, there’s some form of advertising going on, there’s some form of call to action going on to clients. So I guess at the moment, I’m just really passionate about trying to learn more video editing and graphic design, stuff like that. But I don’t know about in the broader sense, I have a lot of different like, that’s again, I feel like I My mind is always going in different directions on like, what should I be spending my time with? Or in? And that’s definitely struggle for me. I think so cuz I think I have ADHD. I’m not diagnosed, though.

 

Mikayla Anderson  17:50

Girl. We all got some I don’t know. Yeah, we all got a little funk in our systems. Yeah. But I think the key that I’ve been like trying to figure out is, so your passion with nonprofit, your passion with kids, and advertising, and mental health for both of us, all of us. I think if we can use the skill set that we have here, that we’re using every single day, so creating content, editing video, and like making websites and graphics and all that stuff, finding a way to benefit what we’re passionate, passionate about what the skills we already have. Because a lot of these things that we’re mentioning, have zero budget of marketing and have zero like knowledge of like how to start. And so I think that’s something that I’m eventually going to go down to, I just like, right now I’m trying to soak up as much as I can and learn as much as I can, so that when I do go down that road, I can like be a good pillar for them and be like, she knows what she’s talking about. Oh, like, I think I know, I’m getting there. But it’s just like, if I approach whether it be a nonprofit, a charity, like a center, XYZ, and offer like, just be like, hey, I want to help you guys like this is what I do. And I know I’m good at it. Like what can I do to help you? Like be able to like answer questions they have and provide like, this is what it’s probably going to cost like, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. So that’s what I’m trying to do, which has been interesting.

 

Christian Payton  19:49

No, yeah, that’s something that I say all the time like, because to sit and say, I enjoy every single thing that I have to do at work would be a lie, but learn wanting to look at those things and like, learning to look at those things and say, Okay, well, this can be useful here. Like, I know, I want to do this in the future so that this would be useful here. And then that’s like, how, for me, it’s like how an enjoyable things become more enjoyable for me. Yeah.

 

Mikayla Anderson  20:19

Absolutely. So has there ever been a time where you felt like you were supposed to be doing something else? Like, where, like, for me example, in college, because like, we almost have like an identity crisis. Like, you’re just like, This is not what I’m supposed to do.

 

Christian Payton  20:41

Like, that’s me every day. I’m like, That’s me every single day.

 

Sarah Haines  20:44

I feel like I’m constantly just thinking, Am I bored? Or am I just being consistent? And then from there? If I’ve figured out Yeah, I am bored, then maybe it is time to move on. But, and sometimes I actually questioned myself, whenever I feel like I’m not doing a good job of it, too. I’m like, this is time just to throw in the towel. It’s like, oh, yeah, no, that’s just giving up. So

 

Christian Payton  21:17

I’m sorry, what was the question?

 

Mikayla Anderson  21:19

Like, has there been a time where you had identity? Oh,

 

Christian Payton  21:22

yeah. Um, I feel like that’s never ending for me. I feel like it’s probably a normal feeling for a lot of people our age, like being so young. I think for me, like, that happened when I’m like, very, like, when I’m being extremely anal, and like, super hard on myself. I keep losing my train of thought. That happens for me when I’m being extremely hard on myself. And I feel like I’m not living my purpose. That’s what it is. That’s what I was trying to say. Because that’s something that’s really big for me is like, doing the work that God created me to do. So they say, but just being like a decent human being, and like, helping other people. So sometimes, like being here, I’m like, I’m not helping people. Like, because I’m like, sitting behind a desk, like at a computer, I’m like, I’m not living up to my purpose. That’s not true. So I like have those moments, often. But then it’s like, again, having to tell yourself, well, no, because when you think about it, this is helping you get to the next, like, the the smallest of tasks that you do every single day, and will help you like, get to where you’re trying to go in life, but you just have to, like, constantly remind yourself that like, no, I need this, like this lesson is valuable, even if you don’t really see the value in it. And, and, and being intentional about like trying to learn what the value is and what you’re doing. Right? If you just if you’re just looking at it, like I hate this, like, they’re like this, this isn’t worth my time, right, you’ll never learn the lesson. So you’re gonna always end up, even if you leave this place, you’re gonna always end up in a place just like that, because you have not learned the lesson that you’re supposed to learn. I feel like

 

Mikayla Anderson  23:21

that’s a big thing. I don’t want to say for our generation, but every single person, or most people have this mindset of like, I want to change the world. And especially with like, all of like, I don’t want to say protests, but like actually standing up and like saying something. Like, there’s a lot of that throughout, like different parts of our generation, which is really good. But a lot of that comes with like, there’s so much of our personalities that are hard on ourselves. And so, at that point, you’re just like, constantly questioning yourself. Like, you’re just like, okay, is this what I want to do? Whether it be like, you’re questioning your career, your personality, your like, religion, your sexuality, like all these different things, like, that’s why all of this is stirring up. Because before like, if you think about like, our parents generation, they didn’t have all of these different things that were talked about, because nobody was, quote, unquote, questioning them.

 

Christian Payton  24:44

I think that that’s very true, what you’re saying but with us, like we have this victim mentality about our generation, and nobody wants to work like and I don’t mean in the sense that I said earlier, like, I don’t want to work. I mean Like, literally everybody wants to be their own boss, everybody wants to be an entrepreneur. Everybody cannot be an entrepreneur, everybody cannot be their own boss. Not everybody’s meant to be a leader. And that’s okay. Like, sometimes there is power and being a follower. A lot of us have missed that. So we’re like, we want to do things our own way. We want to start our own things. I’m like, really? Like, asking yourself, like, how

 

Mikayla Anderson  25:24

does that work? Right? A lot of time, like, as hard as it is, like, I, I had some friends in high school that were like, Oh, I’m gonna go do this. And, you know, when like, somebody tells you something, and you’re like, watching it fail. And you’re like, that’s not gonna work. Like sometimes you just have to let it happen.

 

Christian Payton  25:46

Most definitely. A lot of the times people don’t. I’m seeing for myself. People don’t want to do the footwork. Mm hmm. People want to like jump out there and immediately, like have success. Yeah. That’s not real. Right. Oh,

 

Sarah Haines  26:01

kind of feeds with our like, need to have everything right now. Exactly. I mean, we have so many devices that give us exactly what we want. Right? The instant gratification. Yeah. And so it just seems like it’s

 

Mikayla Anderson  26:14

Yeah. Well, none that also goes into like, I don’t even know, like, I’ve never seen so many. I don’t know if this is normal with like other generations, but so many young people getting married, and having kids and, like, buying real estate this young. Like, that’s really great.

 

Christian Payton  26:38

It’s huge. Yeah, that’s, that’s really, really good. That’s really, really good. I think the the real estate is really good. Not saying that the marriage isn’t good, because that’s huge. That’s a huge as well. But the real estate, I feel like that that’s like huge, because that’s the biggest purchase most people are ever going to have in their lifetime is buying a home. But I think like the marriage and kids like being in a South, that’s all I’ve ever seen. So that’s pretty, like it’s really traditional and normal here. Getting married young having babies. That’s completely normal.

 

Mikayla Anderson  27:09

Obviously, there’s a lot of factors that can affect what you do.

 

Christian Payton  27:13

Most definitely.

 

Mikayla Anderson  27:15

And so Has there ever been a time where you feel like, you’re not challenging yourself enough to get where you want to be to for your dream job organization? Whatever it might be? Have you felt like, you kind of hit a plateau? And you don’t whether you even don’t know? Or you just are, I don’t want to say lazy but lazy or just passing time.

 

Sarah Haines  27:45

And not inspired? Yeah.

 

Christian Payton  27:47

Right now, I would say no, I said I was gonna give a shout out in my boot. I’m gonna give a shout out to my boo. I’m literally always working or thinking about like, some type of work. So I would say no right now, but I have felt that way before. Just not wanting to like try something new because of like, being scared of the outcome. That’s 100% That blew my answer. Like in college, like, I wasn’t someone that climactic knowledge, I wasn’t someone that like would. When I lived in Lafayette, I was more active. But what I was at at LSU is like, there wasn’t a bunch of stuff going on. But like the stuff that was like, it was just kind of like, I don’t want to put myself out there because of like, the fear of rejection. Or the fear of not being good, or the fear of like, not being good enough. Or like there’s already someone that’s doing that, or like you can tell yourself a million different things. And then like yourself gonna believe it and you just won’t, and then you’ll never try. So I’ve definitely been there before. I

 

Sarah Haines  28:59

feel like it’s really hard for me to be satisfied with myself. Mm hmm. Things ever should be. Yeah, I’m

 

Christian Payton  29:05

not 100% Like, I made it. This is it.

 

Sarah Haines  29:09

I mean, it’s even hard for me to to be like, Yeah, good job today. Yeah. Like sometimes it’s just like, a struggle to like, for instance, I can’t take naps, it is extremely hard for me to take me I’m the same way because as soon as I lay down, I think my to do list is right over there. And, of course, I haven’t finished everything because my to do list are pretty much impossible to finish. Because I’m just gonna go and cram everything I can for that day. And then whatever doesn’t get done, it goes on the next list for the next day. And so kind of builds up, but I think that I’m finally coming around to realizing that, like, my worth is not always in my work. And it’s not always what I’m doing. You know, it’s my intentions behind it.

 

Christian Payton  29:57

Honestly, I would challenge you to just like just Keep doing like little small things, like you really kind of makes you nervous. Because that’s That way you’ll always have that sense of high.

 

Sarah Haines  30:07

Like, you mean just like, like, What do you mean exactly

 

Christian Payton  30:11

like so you know how, like for a while you were putting off like getting a second job. And then you did that and like so like you have like this, like, set, like, I want to feel like hi, but it’s like, it’s like you’re excited. Like you’re like, okay, like I really am doing like, what I said I was going yeah, like, it’s almost like your life is I hate to say more purposeful, but you feel like I’m doing something good. So like, constantly challenging yourself and doing like something small, like every now and then I feel like that that feeling won’t ever go away. Like riding that high, literally continuously, even if it’s like the smallest thing like, like, I wash my car today. Like I don’t know, but yeah, yeah, just like that’s cuz that’s like, it’s it’s a great feeling like that’s like to get

 

Mikayla Anderson  30:58

something off your to do list that’s been on there forever.

 

Christian Payton  31:02

Yeah, or just to even feel like, okay, my life, my life really is like I really am doing something with my life. Because I feel like now we’re like, again, at that age where it’s like, you some of your friends are like graduated and they’re doing like amazing. Other friends graduated aren’t using their degrees other friends still in school. And then like, I feel like I’m somewhere in the middle. And then I’m sure I have friends that look at me like no, like, I wish I was in your position. But then I’m like looking at other people. And I’m like, so I’m right there in the middle. But to constantly be able to say like, Okay, I check this off. I’m doing this, I’m doing that. Like this. It’s almost like okay, well, I’m gonna, I’m getting to where I’m trying to go. It’s like, that’s like a nice reminder, like when you’re able to, like, do those things. Yeah,

 

Sarah Haines  31:49

I feel like because we can see what everybody else is doing nowadays. So much easier to be unsatisfied with ourselves, and also to make out that someone else’s life is better than ours. Especially because of course, I mean, most people put out the best of themselves on the internet. And I feel like that’s a big factor. Because I’m like, over here are 2516 year old is like, the most famous tick tock er in the world multimillionaire. Yeah. And I’m like, I will never have that amount of money. And I’ll never like have a comfortable life like that. It’s also like, do I mean, it’s not even compare, but I can’t even compare it to myself, because I don’t want to do any of that, like I would, I don’t want to do tick tock dances. Like that’s something that’s not appealing to me should always be comparing just what someone has. It’s like, what are they doing? Like with themselves, too? And are they benefiting like people around them? Compare that

 

Christian Payton  32:43

way? That’s a good way to gauge it. I think. Like, it’s just filling valid. It’s probably not because I don’t even know what so and so got going on, like outside of like what I’m seeing on their screen. Like I look at

 

Mikayla Anderson  32:55

people like you guys know who Mr. Beast is. You know, he’s like this big unvoluntary like filthy rich, I look at people like him. And I’m like, Is this really what he wanted to do? Like, you’re filthy rich, right? Good for you. That’s awesome. But like, where do you feel like, I’m doing good with my life? Or do you really just not care?

 

Sarah Haines  33:21

Do you feel like he doesn’t put out good vibes or content or anything?

 

Mikayla Anderson  33:27

It’s not even that, but like, Where does he get like the warm and fuzzies? Like, where does he feel like, I’m doing something that not only that I wanted to do, but also like, I’m putting good into the world that I’m taking out of it. Like I’m changing. I don’t want to say that everybody needs to feel like they have to change the world, right? But he’s putting something out that he’s like, worked hard for, like, Where does he get that? Like, I don’t know where he started. So I can’t necessarily say like, Oh, what was just handed to him, right? But like, you see people like that, like where they are now. And you’re just like, you can either be like super envious or you can be like, whatever. But then you also are just like Is this what you want to do? Because like, for right now he’s selling like these chocolate bars, right? So he made like a contract with like, Hershey’s, Nestle, whatever. And he made these chocolate bars and he has like, he’s going like Willy Wonka with it. Like if you could get like a golden ticket, then you get like, however much money or whatever. And so it’s like he’s making all this money by selling like these chocolate bars. But at the end of the day, like when somebody does get that ticket, like is that his warm and fuzzy after making x amount of profits, or is it like, you know what I need Well then, like you see, like, all these donations he’s doing you’re like is that 1% of his earnings? Like, you’ll never know. But like, at the same time, like, I don’t know. And then you go into the thought of like, well, at least he thought of doing it and all these other things, but

 

Christian Payton  35:18

anyway, it’s just a tax write off. I’m kidding. Oh,

 

Sarah Haines  35:21

I mean, no, I think it definitely is probably a bonus part. He donate so much money. I’m sure he you know, but for him to if you look at the amount of money he donates, and like, gives to people, it is insane. Yeah, it’s interesting to look him up, cuz I’ve never heard of him before. I’m not just like binging for fun. I’m, like, do other stuff, like playing in my room or something? But

 

Mikayla Anderson  35:43

right, like gets on in the background kind of thing? Yeah, he’s

 

Sarah Haines  35:46

a good example, Mr.

 

Christian Payton  35:48

Beast, Mr. Beast, I’ve never heard of him. It’s interesting. I’ll have to look them up on YouTube, describe a situation

 

Mikayla Anderson  35:54

where you felt like, you would never overcome the task at hand. So like, whether if you were like learning something new, whether it be like in college, or here at previous jobs, or,

 

Christian Payton  36:10

I mean, I feel like I have a bunch of situations like that in life because like, I’m super dramatic. So I always feel like, Oh, my God, it’s the end of the world when it’s not, but like a situation for me in college. My freshman year, my senior year, I got a 4.0. The first semester, right, I was working two jobs, and I got a 4.0 the first semester. And then that second semester. I like had a political science class. And it was like, just an elective. And he was just terrible. Like, he was literally the worst. I hit it’s just like his the way he went about doing things in his class just didn’t make sense. And I messaged him asking him for like a meeting. And he told me no, because I passed the test, I just wasn’t doing good on the on the assignments. And I’m like, right, because your instructions aren’t clear. So that was like a time where I was just like, this isn’t gonna, this is just not going to end well. And I ended up getting a B in the class, and I had A’s everywhere else. So that was super annoying. But that’s just like something small first for me. Like it was never really like that a lot in school. Because school is always been super easy for me like it’s either black is black and white. So like the instructors give you like, what they’re like looking for in the class, and then you just like, execute it. But like getting out of school and coming into the real world. And like having this as my first job. Like Sydney’s really big on like systems. And he’s a great teacher. But like, when you’re new, and like, this is your first you don’t want to mess up. And that’s something that something that we’ve talked about, like I don’t ask enough questions. So I felt like that a lot, like, not a lot. But like, when I first starting here, I felt like that, like, I’m never going to be able to like, get all this stuff down. I still feel like that sometimes when like, I look at all my tasks. Just last week, I asked you like, how do you manage all your tasks? Because it’s just very overwhelming. So I think that anytime, like your plate me, I’m not gonna say that generally, anytime I’m putting a new situation in life where I just feel overwhelmed. That’s often a feeling that I get like, I’m never gonna be able to, like finish or complete all this or whatever it is. And I’m looking at did you ask me how overcome that? Was that? Like, have you felt that way? But how do you

 

Mikayla Anderson  38:30

felt like you’ve no, you never could finish it?

 

Christian Payton  38:34

Yeah, like, yeah, like even Yeah, last week, I felt like that a lot. And then just like taking a deep breath, and yeah, like prioritizing certain things. You eventually just you’re able to knock stuff out. But also knowing that I have to do stuff my way. Just because like you just because Sidney tells me like Christian look at projects, I look at projects in the classic view doesn’t mean that I have to look at projects in the classic view, it’s just he’s just telling me like, this has been helpful for me. That’s something that I had to learn, like, just because someone’s offering this insight doesn’t mean that I have to actually follow it and like, just do things that work for me. Right? And as long as things are getting done, everything’s gonna be okay in the world.

 

Mikayla Anderson  39:15

Yes.

 

Sarah Haines  39:17

It’s like confidence in yourself that you can still get it done

 

Christian Payton  39:19

exactly. Like learning to have that confidence and like, it’s okay, Christian, like, it’s going to be okay, like, you’re going to get it done. But giving yourself permission to like, actually be confident in yourself.

 

Sarah Haines  39:33

Well, I think that also provides like, a clear headed state of mind to get the task done. It’s like if you’re over here, like freaking out, which is something I do on a regular basis. Then I’m like, I don’t get it done. Yeah, either. Like freeze up and I’m like, I’ll do it later and don’t do it. Yeah. And I mean, sometimes you do need a little break, you know, but um, yeah, I definitely feel like I I tend to close things off instead of just realizing that this is a wider, like, instead of it just being like, Okay, you do this a, b, and c, and you’re done. It’s like no, it actually means that there’s like a wider door. And it means I can do things maybe even a totally different way. Yeah. Because like, I can’t figure it out this one way. So maybe it’s another way. It’s like, I just got to get out of this mindset of like black and white. And it’s more gray. Yeah, yeah.

 

Christian Payton  40:23

But I feel like that also has a lot to do with like, we were taught that it was black or white. Like, there’s a lot of gray, even like the school system and the way that like, children are taught because I went to public school my whole life. So like, literally putting kids in a classroom and having a teacher teach one specific way. And the kids that get it, get it. And if they don’t, then like they’re bad, or they’re like, not that smart. It’s like, no, like, everything’s not black or white. Now, you can’t teach everyone the same way. And like, so I feel like that literally sets you up for failure as an adult.

 

Mikayla Anderson  40:57

That’s interesting. Yeah. So when you have like these tasks, and like these different things, where you’re feeling like super overwhelmed, like, how are you able to calm yourself down? And like, go through it and be like, it’s okay. Like, I know, you talked about like, just because somebody says to like, this is what I do doesn’t mean I have to do it. But how have you been able to, like, execute the tasks? Like, is there a specific way where you’re just like, do you write the things down, and then check them off. Or,

 

Christian Payton  41:46

for me, that helps. Because we use Zoho Projects. And so for the week, listeners don’t know, but for the week, like we pretty much get everything that we have to do. And then like it’s just like, all piled up, it looks like it’s piled up when you’re first opening it up on Monday morning. And so for a long time, like the view that I was looking at, it just wasn’t showing me everything that I needed to get done. And I wasn’t getting everything done in a week, or in my week. And so I had a bunch of overdue stuff on Mondays or whatever day that it was due. It’s just like, I was just not getting stuff done efficiently. That was efficient was not my word. But yeah, after like talking to you, Sydney, just like listening to just how everybody else operates. Because at first I was like, I don’t like the way it looks like the way you all look at it. I’m like, I don’t like the way that looks. Because visually, I’m like, It’s not pleasing. Everything’s not gonna be aesthetically pleasing at work. Like that was my first coming to Jesus moment, like. And then once I like got my whole list of everything I like, keep like a notepad on my desk, and I write everything down. Because for me like having on my computer, that’s great. But I actually liked being able to, like, put pen to paper and check things off. So that works for me.

 

Sarah Haines  43:06

I mean, I guess it starts with, like me trying to get it structured, like trying to get structure. So writing things down definitely helps. And just like putting out a little bit of a game plan. Yeah, but I don’t know, I’ve just dealt with so much anxiety that sometimes it feels like I’m handling it. But I still know that I’m having like, a little bit of a panic attack. But just slowing down in like, the most basic things like taking deep breath, taking a five minute break. And just like also remembering like, what reality is, which is that I can do this. Even if I don’t know how to do it. I can figure out how to do it. Right. Yeah. And just to like, sit down and do it. I just think that I’ve avoided like, avoidance has been like the thing for me for so long. Oh, yeah. And it’s a bad habit. It’s hard to break

 

Christian Payton  44:03

for me. Avoidance Oh, yeah. Like, even with like being in school, not wanting to do homework, and it’s like, being invited to go to dinner. It’s like, I know, I shouldn’t be doing this, but I really don’t want to work on this. So and this is like frustrating me. And I’m like, and my mom always says that if I get frustrated, take a step back and like go do something else then come back to it. And I would use that as an excuse to like, avoid whatever the situation was that I didn’t actually want to. So but that’s something that like, I am very grateful for being here like Sidney’s very like patient, and like, he’s a great teacher. So and even in like in his moments where like, he’s like, struggling to like break it down. So that it’s it’s as simple to him as as it is to us. He still tries to do that. So I’m super grateful for that.

 

Mikayla Anderson  44:56

Yeah, cuz some people will just be like, and he’s super

 

Christian Payton  44:59

patient. As far as like, understanding, okay, you had a lot on your plate this week, like, brief, like it’s going to be okay.

 

Mikayla Anderson  45:07

Yeah. Yeah, I

 

Sarah Haines  45:09

feel like even when he was talking in there about like, like asking, like finding two questions to ask each person. And then after that he was like, Oh yeah, you’re gonna be on a podcast tomorrow, and you’re gonna talk about video editing with podcasting, immediately, and my brain was like, you don’t want to do that. You don’t know how to do that. And also, like, your terminology, like, my terminology so bad when it comes to like editing, because I’m just like, trying to brush up on it. And then I was like, but you can do it. Yeah, you can do it. Like, why would you not do it? Because you are doing it? Yeah. Like, I’m going to have to do it. And so it’s just like, it’s just so weird. Like, my mind just plays tricks on me all the time.

 

Christian Payton  45:50

Yeah, just like, are she be trying it? Yeah, trying to. Yeah, challenging yourself to just, that’s so uncomfortable. And you have to be like, mentally, in a different space to like, challenge yourself. Constantly. But you do that, though. Literally every single day. When you go running?

 

Sarah Haines  46:15

Yeah. challenging myself. I feel like that’s more of like a habitual, like, I need this.

 

Christian Payton  46:22

Yeah. But it’s still a challenge. Because like, even if you like, run, like five minutes more than what you usually do. Yeah. That’s like, that’s you challenging yourself every single day.

 

Sarah Haines  46:31

I feel like it’s gotten to the point where like, physical challenges are so much easier than my mental ones. I feel like

 

Christian Payton  46:37

it’s that it’s usually like that. It’s just normal. I feel like, I feel like there is no like, it’s hard to find like that happy balance of like, you’re challenging yourself mentally, like, physically, you’re doing a good job, like you’re growing, because really challenging yourself is just like you’re growing in all these different aspects. But just like growing in all these different aspects in every aspect of your life, like, how do you do that? Like, that’s the thing like, how do you do that, and not lose your mind? One step, I don’t literally,

 

Sarah Haines  47:07

I lose my mind. I just choose losing my mind.

 

Mikayla Anderson  47:10

I think you’d have to take it in like chapters of your life. Like, these months, I want to grow mentally. And I really want to hit the ground running and I do this amount of mental exercises a day. And then once I’m done with that, because if you do them all at once you are now and you’re going to definitely set yourself up for failure. Yeah,

 

Sarah Haines  47:33

I think it comes down to like, having patience to follow through with something. Absolutely. Because again, it goes back to us wanting everything right now. But when it especially when it comes to like mental stuff, or like even building a brand, or you know, just like having the podcast, and that’s not having as many listeners, we’re going to just keep on doing it until we see results. And that’s like all the good things come with time.

 

Mikayla Anderson  48:02

There’s Yeah, if there’s one thing I’ve learned in life is that if like you’re not healthy, in your head, like nothing’s gonna work,

 

Sarah Haines  48:11

it’s gonna affect everything else relationships, how you see yourself, how you interact with just even random people. I feel like the amount of like kindness and patience you have for someone else, like doubles, whenever you’re that way for yourself.

 

Christian Payton  48:26

Something that I always say is anything worth having. doesn’t come easy. Anything like truly worth having, like won’t come easy. That’s like, goals that you set for yourself. It’s not really ever going to be easy to achieve those relationships, friendships, jobs, like you’re going to have to put in the work. So literally, looking at life is like working out really. It’s like those slow gains, which you just kind of keep doing it until like you start seeing like, the results that you’re looking for.

 

Mikayla Anderson  48:59

There is this guy, shout out to Josh Warren. I met him at BNI. And he, me and him went to lunch at rhinos, and he said, if it doesn’t make you nervous, then you probably shouldn’t do it.

 

Christian Payton  49:18

It’s not big enough.

 

Mikayla Anderson  49:22

And that just like shook me to the core. Because like, like what I’m telling you about emailing this potential guess like, I’m like, I’m gonna throw up. Because it makes me nervous because I care about it. Yeah. Because like if it doesn’t make you nervous, or it doesn’t make you like nervous. You shouldn’t do it. Because it’s like when you think about like, for people who are going through weight loss or whatever else like it makes them nervous to step on the scale or start working out because they know what’s going to be hard. Mm hmm. Or all these different things like, they know there’s a potential of facing rejection. And it makes them nervous.

 

Christian Payton  50:15

Yeah. But then that’s where like even I don’t know cuz everything is like mindset like because once you like really, truly like jump in it and like you’re doing it for you, and no other outside factors other than like, I’m doing this for myself and myself only once you start doing that and like you start seeing whatever the result is that you’re like, looking for. You become addicted to that. And so the fear of absolutely goes away because you become a dick. Like you become addicted to that feeling of whatever like success or

 

Mikayla Anderson  50:50

what can also be dangerous, so

 

Christian Payton  50:54

But too much of anything good can be bad. Yeah. So it’s literally like what is it the circle with the half white half black? I’m talking about Yang and yang. Yeah, yin and yang. Like, I don’t want to this is good. This is far

 

Mikayla Anderson  51:09

good thing that you were. I was like, what?

 

Sarah Haines  51:12

Airbender? The Last Airbender? Yeah, but

 

Christian Payton  51:14

it’s like that, like, good and bad have to exist good and evil. Like it just it all has to coexist? Yeah.

 

Sarah Haines  51:20

Well, I’ve been trying to set myself up to just not be disappointed. So kind of in the way of like, what am I doing this for? Like, what’s the reasoning behind it, if it’s that my all my happiness is going to be set up, if I do this thing or not? No, that’s out, I can even be an option for me anymore. Because that it just increases this awareness of like, I might be rejected, or I might fail. And so to me, it’s just like another learning opportunity. So it’s like, like, my dad was saying, he’s like, even if this second job doesn’t work out, even if they just randomly fire you, whatever it is, for whatever reason, he was, like, just see it as you having an opportunity to see what you want to do, what you can do what’s out there, like all these different things to learn from that. And, you know, it can only be I can only make it a good thing, just like nerves, making it more like I’m excited. I’m not nervous, I’m excited, you know, just changing my mind so that it’s more based in reality, but also, just more hopeful, just more positive.

 

Christian Payton  52:29

Yeah, 100%. The way you go into things like thinking about stuff like that will determine like the outcome of your life, I feel like you could, you’ll go further in life with that type of mindset, then constantly like feeding or telling yourself something else, or something not as kind.

 

Sarah Haines  52:52

I feel like it keeps you humble, too. It’s like not this sense of like, you’re entitled to this one thing. Because it will make you happy. Like, that’s the only thing that can make you happy.

 

Christian Payton  53:02

And people see that and you like the way you treat yourself, people people, people I can look at somebody and tell when they when they’re like mean to themselves, like just naturally I’m like, they’re like confident and like, like themselves onto themselves. And you can tell the way that people treat themselves and so that will you treating yourself nice and not like in a humble arrogant way, but just like, she’s kind to herself, she has to be a kind person, you have to be a con person, be kind to yourself, because you know, all of the stuff that you have to deal with and that you’ve done. And so that will get you further in life, I believe.

 

Mikayla Anderson  53:37

Thank you. So, last question. Do you guys believe that? Everyone has only one calling in life? No. Okay, why?

 

Sarah Haines  53:56

Just like, I feel like there’s not the one. Like I think that you can choose to love somebody and your personalities go well together, and you can stay together for the rest of your life. But there’s not some kind of magical thing where it’s like easy, or you just get this thing and you didn’t work for it was just like only giving one person one direction in life and it goes back to everything being black or white. And it’s like you have no other like, someone being creative. Your creativity can go into like, I feel like almost any line of work. Oh yeah. I mean, like even like doing numbers. Like I feel like creativity. It comes with more of like you knowing how to interact with people or you knowing how to, like, be organized, even, you know, it’s just like using your mind and being open and not like putting yourself in like a box. Like my mom mom is always saying how she’s not creative. She’s like Sarah is a little creative and like just because you can’t you don’t know how to like draw somebody’s face doesn’t mean you’re not creative. And I think a lot of people think that’s just being artistic which definitely puts people in a box and If I feel like there’s only one thing I could do in my life, I feel like I’d be screwed. Yeah. Because I have no idea. And I’ve already done like, several different things. So, yeah, it’s like a shoe seller slash. Manager slash, receiving and shipping slash cleaning shoes, flash flash, like picking out clothes for us to buy. Plus doing video editing. Like, that’s all a little different.

 

Christian Payton  55:33

But that’s like, exciting though. I feel like when people limit themselves to doing just like one thing, because they feel like I have to do that. Because like, I feel like this is my purpose. Like, this is my one thing

 

Mikayla Anderson  55:45

in life, or people have told me I’m good at this. Yeah, I’m

 

Christian Payton  55:48

like, like, that’s so sad. Like how boring. But, but that’s just like, my skewed way of thinking because I’m pretty sure there are people that are like, no, like, that’s, there’s, there’s beauty in that I’m sure. But to me, I’m like that just wouldn’t seem fulfilling. Yeah. And that’s me saying I want to do nonprofit work. But that doesn’t mean like I want to do nonprofit work where I’m like, specifically like tutoring like girls every single day after school. No, like, I feel like you can do what you like what you’re doing and just find different avenues in the way that looks. It doesn’t have to look the same way. Like so. Have you ever

 

Sarah Haines  56:27

heard the Renzi center? Learning Center? I don’t think they I thought they closed a little bit during COVID. But I think it’s back up again. I think they have an Instagram but you could check it out. It’s an island off of

 

Christian Payton  56:40

what is the street?

 

Sarah Haines  56:43

It’s like between, like between kings and stone stoner Avenue. I was literally begin that neighborhood. Oh, I think it’s close to Eagan street. So it’s not like the best street ever. Yeah. But it’s like a big house and they have kids come in after school and they get tutored mostly, that’s

 

Christian Payton  57:03

the type of thing that I think is so cool. Like, those types of programs.

 

Sarah Haines  57:08

Like art classes I did. I did two or three of them where I was, like, one time when I was at Fairfield we filmed a video there and then the other two times I was substituting for somebody like it was just like a little film class thing that we did. That’s cool.

 

Christian Payton  57:21

Man Mark, we’re just talking about Highland because to me Highlands like the best part of Shreveport because the people there like

 

Sarah Haines  57:31

it just feels like there’s more cool the most culture there to

 

Christian Payton  57:34

Island. Yeah. And people are just like themselves. Hey Burley to neighborly. Yeah, so that’s exciting. I didn’t know about that. That’s so exciting. And I was just talking about Island. And so no, no, it’s an island. Islands a close partnership for it.

 

Mikayla Anderson  57:48

I think there’s a I think there’s a period in your life where you know that you’re in just the biggest part of your life, you know, you’re thriving the most. Whether it be you just became a mother, or you just got the job you’ve been working so hard for. I don’t I wouldn’t want to say that’s your calling, though. I think that’s that there’s specific seasons in your life where you thrive the most, whether it be under a lot of stress, and you got through something that you didn’t think you’d be able to get through. Or you starting something new, or you cutting something off that was burdening you, or whatever it might be. But like, I wouldn’t say it’s like you’re calling to do those things. Because you can do any of those things within, like, whatever you’re supposed to be doing in that moment, whether you believe somebody has pre filmed your life for you? Or like, has it figured out for you and you’re trusting them? Or if you just feel like you’re walking through it, but I really think that everybody has a time and a place where they know that they’re going to thrive the most. I don’t know if I would call it their calling though. Does that make sense? Kind of. No, no?

 

Christian Payton  59:32

No. I’m saying like, no, yeah, I’m following I say no before so yeah. Okay. But that’s just like pastors like they’re calling is to pastor so some of them saying that. They still have other jobs. A lot of them that’s not their only job. Well, I’m not gonna say a lot of them. There are some of them. That’s not their only job. But I don’t necessarily think you have to limit yourself to one thing just because you feel like something else is your passion because I’m passionate about helping people, I don’t know. But I’m not going to just limit myself to just that just because I feel like that’s my one passion. Because I feel like when you’re trying different things you can find out, Oh, I’m passionate about this too. Just like you’re limiting yourself, you’re putting yourself you’re living in a box when you do that. I feel like

 

Sarah Haines  1:00:18

passions too, are in a lot of sense, like their broad, like ideas or like, a certain type of thing that you like to do. But from there, it’s finding what niche like, what’s your job niche within that range? Just like, I like to help people. Okay, well, I can do so much with that exam. Was every business seat somebody to help them? Exactly. You know what I mean? Like, HR, whatever it is, there’s always an opportunity to just benefit people and put good stuff out there.

 

Christian Payton  1:00:46

Yeah, I agree. I don’t have to be a nurse. I just feel like that. So yeah,

 

Mikayla Anderson  1:00:54

yeah, no, I totally get that because my parents wanted me to go into healthcare. And I was just like, no. Not like that.

 

Sarah Haines  1:01:05

I don’t even know what my parents wanted me to do. I know that they told me I could not be an artist or painter, because that makes no money.

 

Christian Payton  1:01:13

Yeah, but I mean that so many times, to a certain extent.

 

Sarah Haines  1:01:16

I don’t know if I had the skills to make money here.

 

Mikayla Anderson  1:01:20

Were artists, but digitally. So

 

Christian Payton  1:01:23

that’s Yeah, I’ve heard that. I’ve heard that so much. Like,

 

Sarah Haines  1:01:26

that’s the idea of a starving artist.

 

1:01:30

I love it.

 

Sarah Haines  1:01:30

I just don’t think it’s accurate.

 

Christian Payton  1:01:33

It’s not me and my mom. It’s a running joke. It’s not even a joke. It’s the truth at this point. I love artists, like, What’s your type? Artist, like, as long as you’re like, a creative in some form, or fashion, whatever. And my mom has always been like, I don’t know, it’s just something unappealing about not being able to eat dinner, Christian love, like, sandwiches, like I don’t know. And just like,

 

Sarah Haines  1:02:01

I wonder if that has something to do with. I think people who recognize that they can be creative, are confident, because they like can see themselves and what they can do, and they’re not scared to put themselves out there maybe is that you’re also just like, attracted to people that are like super confident in themselves.

 

Christian Payton  1:02:20

I think that creatives usually have a very different way of thinking about the world around them. And they helped me unlock different parts of my brain. Yeah, we don’t use 100% of our brain. So to like, meet somebody that’s like, oh, excuse me. To meet someone that’s like, Well, no, actually, I see it this way, and then then be able to, like walk you through that process. It’s amazing to me, like, that’s like beautiful. So then I’m like, I just love this. Like, I love to hear moms like, I love being able to eat at a nice restaurant better. Oh, that’s different priorities. Yeah. And Shannon might be just like an age. Yeah, but I think it’s more of an age thing. Because most of my friends I surround myself usually with like creatives. And a lot of them. They’re like their parents. Like I said, at the beginning of this episode, my friend was telling he’s a creative, but his parents are like, as long as he’s working a job, and he’s making at least 50,000 a year. They’re fine. And he’s like, but that doesn’t even make sense. Because one that’s not even a lot of money. To that doesn’t make me happy. But the whole being an artist thing, you’re not even making 50,000 a year. To us. We’re like right now. Like, I know what I’m capable of. Right now. It’s not my season of making 50,000. And that’s just what it is. But it’s like, Isaac said this in his podcast, it’s kind of like you have to like believe in yourself and know like that you’re capable of doing what, what, what it is you’re trying to get done. And not even worry about, like the naysayers or like whatever’s going on in the back. Because you’re gonna have that and it sucks when it comes from, like, your parents or your friends or like the people that are the closest to you, but the people you look

 

Mikayla Anderson  1:04:01

up to,

 

Christian Payton  1:04:02

yeah, but I mean, like, that’s just what’s gonna make that victory that much sweeter. Right. So

 

Sarah Haines  1:04:09

I think it’s just that we’re more prone to believe, like, close friends and family, just because we’ve been vulnerable around them. And they like know us the best. But it’s also all of it is through perspective. It’s like I see you this way. Just like a parent might see their child is like, it’s still their response. It’s still their responsibility. Like, even when they’re grown up. And it’s like, if there’s something wrong with my child, it’s my fault. So, like denial, or you know, just like people who struggle with relationships with their parents. I feel like that’s a big part of it. But it’s like, I don’t have to see myself in the way that this person is telling me I am. Yeah. Like, I don’t have to always take other people’s perspective of me or they’re even like, a lot of the time. It’s not even their perspective. It’s just what I think they’re thinking about me and then it’s like a weight that Just when I think about myself,

 

Christian Payton  1:05:01

that’s yeah, when you when you go like oil, when you go deep into it, that’s usually what it is. It’s like, no, that’s really how I feel about myself, but I’ll blame it on my mama. Like, that’s true. Like, usually we’re the root of most of the things, our own problems, I think, yeah.

 

Mikayla Anderson  1:05:23

What’s one piece of advice you’d get to anybody who feels like they’re in a job right now that’s worthless, they think is worthless to where they want to go. So example would be like, somebody working at McDonald’s, who wants to be like a music producer someday

 

Christian Payton  1:05:43

100%, you are exactly where you’re supposed to be. Like, you’re there for a reason. You have to. And I feel like I say this all the time. But you genuinely have to, like, switch your mindset. And like how you think about things that will be the reality of your life, like, the way you speak to yourself what you say out loud. If you’re constantly saying, like, I hate this job, I’m never gonna get to XYZ, you won’t. Because you’re telling yourself that and you’re like, you everything that you consume is important. So what you’re hearing is important. And if you’re literally listening to yourself, do I recognize right now that I’m talking that I’m listening to my own voice? No, but I am. If you’re constantly saying this out loud, you’re going to believe it, like you’re telling yourself that. So just like be patient, because everything like plays out in God’s timing, not our own. And purposeful pain. Like jokingly I said that when me and you were on what the podcast that we did a few weeks ago. And I was like, but that’s beautiful, because a lot of the things that we go through is purposeful, but it feels painful at the time. And so when you’re in a season or a place in your life, and you feel like Oh, I hate this place, I’m not going to get to where I want to go. It’s like no, this is perfect. This is tell yourself like this is purposeful pain, like I’m going through this for a reason, like this is going to get me to the next level. So just trying to like change your view of the world or your view of your world, your current situation will help you not be so miserable. That’s all I got. That’s it. What do you got? Me?

 

Sarah Haines  1:07:23

Um, well, I mean, I would definitely agree. I think you summed it up pretty well. I will say also, maybe use the resources you already have. You know, you can turn a hobby into a full time job, I think. Absolutely. It might take a little bit more work. But at the end of the day, the best thing about working hard is that you can say hey, I did this I accomplish this thing. Like only good can come out of it like the harder you work and it might be that you it turns out I actually don’t want to be a music producer. You know, maybe it’s just something else like Yeah, I think that one of

 

Christian Payton  1:08:03

McDonald’s now never know what can happen

 

Sarah Haines  1:08:08

I think that sometimes when we meet a goal it just feels like it like we meet the goal and then it was not what we expected. I think just like keep your expectations in check too. And again go back to I’m doing this to learn something new not so much like my whole happiness is placed on it. Yeah, well whether or not I succeed in this area. Yeah. Because like it’s about failure and trial trial and failure. Most of

 

Christian Payton  1:08:30

the times like the jobs that we’re working on it’s like this isn’t even your forever so why are you giving us so much of your like, it’s not attention but like why are you investing all your emotions here when you know you’re not going to be here forever anyway for like, so. Choosing logic over emotion sometimes to

 

Sarah Haines  1:08:48

work hard, play hard.

 

Christian Payton  1:08:51

No Wiz Khalifa though. Yes,

 

Sarah Haines  1:08:57

I have no idea. No. Westcliffe I feel like lots of people have said that before.

 

Christian Payton  1:09:03

Oh, he made it a song. So

 

Sarah Haines  1:09:04

yeah. Yeah. A little are like copyright isn’t a little or does that mean reserved or something?

 

Christian Payton  1:09:14

I think writers are. What’s one piece of advice, you would give them a gala?

 

Mikayla Anderson  1:09:18

I would just say stay open. Like, don’t expect it to be a staircase. To your goal. Like simple, you just walk

 

Christian Payton  1:09:31

straight staircase.

 

Mikayla Anderson  1:09:34

Pivot, you’re gonna be thrown across the floor, you’re gonna be swimming across the ocean, all these different things. And like you’re never gonna know when it’s gonna happen.

 

Christian Payton  1:09:47

And that’s the craziest thing. Because you’ll never be fulfilled in life. When you think about it. It’s like you’ll get the fulfillment that you think you’re looking for. that’s not gonna be enough. And like, you will never really hit that moment until like, hopefully, like in your later days and you’re like, you’re like you’re thinking back on your life and you’re like, I lived a good life. Like, that’s really when I’ll know. Because right now I’m like, I won’t ever know until that moment when I’m like, sitting, maybe not sitting. But like when I’m older, and I’m like, on a rocking chair, just thinking like, I really did live live a good life, but you don’t know until like, the moment hits you.

 

Sarah Haines  1:10:28

Yeah. I think the like beings like satisfied and then content. Of course, those words are interchangeable, I think. But I think that we can be content and like, happy with what we’re doing. But still, like, want to push ourselves more. Because I think sometimes it’s like, oh, I’m on this grind. Like, I just won’t stop won’t stop won’t stop. And it’s like, yeah, you’re gonna kill yourself, honestly. And sometimes I feel like I’m I do that. And that’s just something like, I struggle with, but I just think also balance, like, be open, but also, like, have some balance in your life. Like, maybe start to have some structure for yourself that’s important. And just, like, do things that make you feel good, whether that whether it’s like working hard, or also having some playtime. Or just both of those things.

 

Christian Payton  1:11:26

Yeah, that’s important. Can I get one more piece of advice, and then I’ll be done talking. Um, that’s a lie. You’re gonna fall, like you’re gonna fall you’re gonna, but then like, when you do, obviously, you can’t stay down. But even if you can’t walk, like crawl, and like, you’re not always gonna, sometimes you’re gonna run, when you can’t run, walk when you can’t walk, crawl when you can’t crawl school, like when you can’t ask for help. Yeah, but I’m saying I’m saying that to say like, don’t give up. Like, you genuinely just can’t give up. Like, even like in those lowest moments. Like if you need to take a break, take a break. But sometimes, we like take those breaks and like the breaks just like they start taking us, and then the break start taking us. And then it’s like, Oh, dang, all this time has passed. But it’s just genuinely knowing I can’t give up. Like if I if I rest, that’s fine. But I need to know I’m resting. I’m not like this isn’t my stopping point. Right. Chris Brown said that. I’m always quoting somebody, Chris Brown said, it’s the love song. But he says, so we’ll crawl till we can walk again. And we’ll run until we’re strong enough to jump and then we’ll fly. That that’s true in LA. He was talking about love, but that’s true in life. Thank you guys for joining us on The Young credit podcast. I hope that you really enjoy today’s episode. We had, would you say ya’all had fun talking about it? It was like therapeutic for us. So yeah, we’ll see you next time.

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