Show Notes
Welcome back to the young+creatives podcast! This week on young+creatives we were able to sit down with all the ladies of Revision, Christian Payton, Sarah Haines, and Mikayla Anderson.
In this episode of young+creatives, we cover several key topics including:
What is your Dream Job? (1:45)
How are you challenging yourself to get closer to your Dream Job? (9:10)
Taking your passions and serving them with your Talent (18:00)
Identity crisis: Am I where I’m supposed to be? (20:19)
“I want to change the world” mindset (23:20)
Am I too hard on myself, or am I lazy? (27:15)
Constant Comparision (31:02)
“If it doesn’t make you nervous, you shouldn’t do it.”(48:59)
Do you have “only one” calling in life? (53:41)
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Transcript
Sarah Haines 00:00
On this week’s podcast of young creatives, we talk with Mikayla, Christian and myself about our dream jobs if we have dream jobs and what we do to prep for them, Hope y’all enjoy.
Christian Payton 00:11
Here our vision marketing group, our team of young professionals get it. Created with youth in mind, we strive to educate, inspire and promote authentic creativity across all job fields. This is young
Mikayla Anderson 00:23
creatives. Alright guys, welcome back to the young creatives Podcast. Today, we have the three revision ladies, which we have never had before on the podcast, which is super exciting. We have Christian here, and the wonderful Sarah Okay, well, today’s episode, we’re going to go over a couple different things. But the biggest thing that we wanted to touch on is considering like how young we are with being in the job, and I know Christian, this was your first big girl job, quote, unquote, as far as myself to, Sir, is this your first professional industry job?
Sarah Haines 01:09
No. Sports spectrum where I work at right now is like a manager and receiving shipping. person. I definitely would say that’s like my first big girl job. Okay. Yeah. But it’s not it’s like up to 40 hours. So I’m not working like over.
Mikayla Anderson 01:26
But okay. So with. So you’re still at sports spectrum. So technically, we’re all within our first jobs of being professionals in the industries. So what we kind of wanted to talk about what this episode was essentially, with what we’re learning now in these jobs, whether it be we want to stay in this industry, we don’t obviously, things change. What are we learning here and this specific job field that were in right now that will eventually go to our dream job?
Christian Payton 02:14
I’m kidding. So my dream job is to do nonprofit. So any type of nonprofit work? I want to have my own nonprofit in the future. So that’s how does that look? I’m not sure you
Mikayla Anderson 02:32
do so with your nonprofit? Is there something you specifically want to gear it towards?
Christian Payton 02:37
Um, yeah. I think there are a lot of like, programs for women and children specifically. But I want something for, I want a bunch of stuff. So I want something specifically for like middle school, high school, girls, like girls, really black girls, and like underserved neighborhoods, because there are so many of those.
Mikayla Anderson 03:00
Okay. Sara,
Sarah Haines 03:03
um, I really don’t know, my dream job is having it for like the last two years have definitely struggle with especially like coming out of college with a degree that at the end of it, I honestly was so tired. And yeah, kind of burnt out a little bit, just because I also only had a very small view of what I could do with that. Yeah. And some of that may have been just like, not having enough confidence in myself, or like wanting to put myself out there. And try something new. I think a lot of it was that, but I just started thinking of more broad ideas of what I could do. And I was considering going back to school, until I started applying to jobs again, because I kind of just felt like I needed to do something new. And I wanted to do like psychology, like criminal psychology, and get my masters in that, which I’m not saying I won’t do that one day, but I don’t know. I like the idea, though, of being interested in several things because it almost sets up where you’re not as disappointed if that one thing doesn’t work out, too. And I also feel like my skills could go to, like, they could go down several different avenues. So what about you? mckaela? No,
Mikayla Anderson 04:16
I think that makes sense. I I don’t know if I have a dream job if I’m gonna be honest. Like, I just don’t know if I have like, something I want to do the rest of my life.
Christian Payton 04:27
Like if if money wasn’t an option, like what would you do every single day? Like no matter how much you got paid to do it.
Mikayla Anderson 04:35
I just don’t know if I like appeal to something. I’m doing the same thing every single day. Like I just like routine is comfortable. But I don’t think I would want to do it for 20 plus years.
Christian Payton 04:49
That’s so interesting, though, just to like the shift in like mindsets where I’m like our generation our parents because they don’t understand that at all. Yeah, like I was talking to one of my friends and he was saying that his parents are are so comfortable, as long as he’s like, as long as he has a job. And he’s making like, at least $50,000 a year, his parents are like, okay, and he’s like, but that doesn’t make sense, because I’m not happy. Right? Now a lot of like, everybody older than us doesn’t really get that. Right. When we were talking to someone here at the office hub, I think I told her about me wanting to do nonprofit work, and she was like, asking me about pay. And I was like, I don’t care about pay. And she was like, Yeah, most millennials don’t.
Sarah Haines 05:28
I think it’s because one, social medias opened up so many opportunities for us to see people with other kinds of jobs, and then also to make up our own jobs, like things that niches that people wouldn’t even think they would want someone to do that for them. But now, you know, we just want everything now. So we just want somebody to do every different thing, which is awesome. But I think also, it must be that I see my parents like how they raised me to kind of, they wanted me to just be able to take care of myself. And for them, my dad, like worked two jobs that he did not enjoy. And that was because he had four kids, all like within six years of each other. And so for him, it’s just about providing so. And I also feel like people that might even be a little more bitter to when they’re like, that are older than us, they might see it as like, we don’t really have a right to that, like you just need to get work done and work hard. And then maybe you’ll be happy eventually. Like, maybe you can save up money, and then you can you’ll be happy when you retire or something like that. But I think for us, we just see people like having a good time with their jobs and enjoying it. And so it’s like, why would we not want to do that? Yeah,
Mikayla Anderson 06:41
yeah, there’s definitely a why do we have to wait until retirement to enjoy life, right?
Christian Payton 06:48
Back concepts are insane to me, right? There was this girl
Mikayla Anderson 06:53
actually, on Tik Tok. And I’ll find the video but she said that she has a non traditional retirement plan, which and she explained it as she works for four years, she works for however many years, let’s say it’s one, two, however many. And she saves X amount of dollars a month to take a full year off. So if I worked two years, and then I had a year off, I would have to save this amount of money each month to have a sustainable,
Christian Payton 07:33
that actually makes a lot of sense to me. Which like,
Mikayla Anderson 07:37
I think it’s actually really smart. It just takes a very disciplined person to do that. Yeah.
Sarah Haines 07:41
Also someone who’s able to save that much money, like you’d have to have a pretty high paying job to begin with. And then sounds like that person must not have any anxiety. I don’t know. Maybe they’re just really good about you. Because for me, I’d be like, I will run out. And then you got to find a new job after that. Yeah. But I guess if you’re like, good enough at what you do, then yeah, that’s a little bit easier.
Mikayla Anderson 08:05
I feel like that’s just like hard because like, depending on like, what job field she’s into, like, if you’re happy at your job. Would you want to quit? Even though you had that plan? Yes. Why?
Christian Payton 08:21
I think I’m going to be saying this the whole episode, but I don’t like working. Like I work because I have to do provide for myself. And because society says you like you’re supposed to and you work because like I work personally because I have to like I have bills, I have things that I have to take care of. Does that mean that I don’t enjoy what I do? Absolutely not. But I’m doing this because I have to like I have other things that I have to get done. So this is a must.
Sarah Haines 08:49
So like the difference between that and let’s say you had all the money you needed, you would just go volunteer like add a or you just go ahead and start a nonprofit salutely So that wouldn’t feel like work though.
Christian Payton 09:05
Okay, yeah.
Mikayla Anderson 09:08
So from you having the nonprofit dream, and then you just kind of figuring it out with me. Like, how are whoever wants to take a purse? How are you challenging yourself to potentially get closer to it? Or yeah, I guess just get closer to it in general.
Christian Payton 09:33
Um, so before I like had really set in decided that it was like nonprofit that I wanted to do. I was just kind of like all over the place not really knowing. I was like super comfortable. Like where I was, I wasn’t really challenging myself. But like since I’ve decided that it’s like nonprofit that I know that I want to do in the future. I just don’t know like, what avenue or like how it’s gonna look. I started doing the volunteer work with Casa because that’s pretty much me working with children. That’s me like working with social workers and just people in that industry. And just like that way I’ll have like, experience and also like connection as far as, like, when I have questions in the future is it takes like a village of people to put together something like great. So that and then like, even with real estate school I know that I want my own to being able to like, or knowing, just knowing of different areas that have like all these abandoned homes or just yeah, like, again, like that’s just like having like points of references. Because with real estate, I know in the future, opening up like a Hospitality House or friendship home. Being able to know of like these pieces of real estate myself and not having to, like go through a third party will benefit me as well. Right. So like, just pretty much setting myself up in those different areas will help me and my future.
Mikayla Anderson 10:56
That’s really smart. I’m not that organizer.
Christian Payton 11:00
But none of it, none of it came like on like purpose. I literally woke up January 1 and said, Okay, I’m gonna go to real estate school. And then I wrote the blog for Clean Water Street for for casa. And I was like, this is cool. And then I literally started thinking about it. And then my goal and what I want to do with life, and I was like, this is all aligning, but it wasn’t purposely done. It was just kind of like, oh, this is an interest. I’ll try this. And this is an interest, I’ll try this. And then me just trying out these different things. It’s like, oh, this makes sense, because it’s aligning with what I want to do in the future. Mm hmm. It’s like putting yourself out there. Pretty much.
Mikayla Anderson 11:37
Yeah. That’s interesting. How about you,
Sarah Haines 11:43
um, I think the putting myself out there in the way of getting this job. And like, also trying to get more involved with like LinkedIn, I have to break out of this bubble, the safety bubble I’ve been in, because it’s not even that safe. Like, I’m not satisfied. I mean, I’m getting more satisfied. Like, ever since I got the second job. I felt so much more like, Okay, I have some kind of direction, at least I’m investing in something that I think I can already do. And so, and also learning new stuff, like I’ve already learned so much new stuff, and refreshing because I’ve gotten very stale with my, like, remembering the programs and like, even stuff about cameras. I’m like, How is it that I’ve forgotten is it’s only been like a year and a half? I feel like that’s not very long. But no, that’s good. So old. Because you’re,
Mikayla Anderson 12:35
you’re recognizing it, though, like you’re able to like, see, like, Okay, I’m a little rusty on these cameras. Let me pay extra attention, or ask any these questions to be able to get back into it.
Christian Payton 12:51
Have you like, do you? What do you think you’ve been doing to like, help set yourself up for your next path or journey or? Yeah,
Mikayla Anderson 13:03
so my third year, I think I had maybe three semesters left of college, I wanted to change to psychology. And my mom was so mad. She was like, you can not change the psychology when you’re this close to graduation. And I did it because it was the safe thing to do. Because I was almost already finished, like I had a year and a half left of school. And so I didn’t do that. And then my entire, almost like, between that year and a half. I tried to start. So there’s this group that I tried to start University of Mary It’s called Active Minds, which essentially, is like student advocates for like mental health on like, campuses across the US. And so being personally affected by mental health, essentially, I had all these things going on in college and the way that the college handled the process was not, it was really messy, and it was not professional. And it was just a lot and I don’t think it was something that they were, like, professionally advised to deal with. And so with this group, like students would advocate for themselves for better resources and better like, just like group support. And so I essentially tried to start it for a year and a half. And it got shot down time after time after time, which was really frustrating and it was like okay, like lots of tears were shed, there was a lot of really good, like, small victories of like, getting in contact with this person and getting approval from this person, but not from this person. And so it was, like a really big, just like up and down roller coaster. And so long story short, the club was never made like, it is what it is. But the things that we were able to accomplish, by trying to start that club, like we were able to get, like the suicide prevention line on the back of their student IDs, and like, just little things, and events that were started, that never would have been able to start unless we started the conversation. And so I think the biggest thing is, is like taking those passions of like, either with like, your nonprofit, you didn’t even like, what are you passionate about? Sarah?
Sarah Haines 15:57
I don’t know, I really wanted to work with like, when I was doing my doing the psychology, I really wanted to work with kids who have been, like victims of crimes or have actually, like, committed the crime themselves. So I was really interested in that. But I just always think back to like, how, and I don’t think that religion like were oppressed me as a child, I just see how it has skewed my view of like how the world works. And like, how, you know, I didn’t, I was very, very sheltered. And so I didn’t know a lot, and how now I really struggle with a lot of my mental health because I deal with so much guilt. And a lot of it does have to do with like, my parents religious beliefs, and like how, again, they raised me. So I’m not really sure if that I can kind of push that into something I thought about trying to do counseling, like be a counselor for kids who have like, come out of like, super religious situations. But I’m not really sure. I mean, like, I’m passionate right now I’m passionate about learning to like learning, advertising and understanding how you appeal to people, because it’s something I definitely didn’t learn in school. And like in every business, I mean, there’s some form of advertising going on, there’s some form of call to action going on to clients. So I guess at the moment, I’m just really passionate about trying to learn more video editing and graphic design, stuff like that. But I don’t know about in the broader sense, I have a lot of different like, that’s again, I feel like I My mind is always going in different directions on like, what should I be spending my time with? Or in? And that’s definitely struggle for me. I think so cuz I think I have ADHD. I’m not diagnosed, though.
Mikayla Anderson 17:50
Girl. We all got some I don’t know. Yeah, we all got a little funk in our systems. Yeah. But I think the key that I’ve been like trying to figure out is, so your passion with nonprofit, your passion with kids, and advertising, and mental health for both of us, all of us. I think if we can use the skill set that we have here, that we’re using every single day, so creating content, editing video, and like making websites and graphics and all that stuff, finding a way to benefit what we’re passionate, passionate about what the skills we already have. Because a lot of these things that we’re mentioning, have zero budget of marketing and have zero like knowledge of like how to start. And so I think that’s something that I’m eventually going to go down to, I just like, right now I’m trying to soak up as much as I can and learn as much as I can, so that when I do go down that road, I can like be a good pillar for them and be like, she knows what she’s talking about. Oh, like, I think I know, I’m getting there. But it’s just like, if I approach whether it be a nonprofit, a charity, like a center, XYZ, and offer like, just be like, hey, I want to help you guys like this is what I do. And I know I’m good at it. Like what can I do to help you? Like be able to like answer questions they have and provide like, this is what it’s probably going to cost like, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. So that’s what I’m trying to do, which has been interesting.
Christian Payton 19:49
No, yeah, that’s something that I say all the time like, because to sit and say, I enjoy every single thing that I have to do at work would be a lie, but learn wanting to look at those things and like, learning to look at those things and say, Okay, well, this can be useful here. Like, I know, I want to do this in the future so that this would be useful here. And then that’s like, how, for me, it’s like how an enjoyable things become more enjoyable for me. Yeah.
Mikayla Anderson 20:19
Absolutely. So has there ever been a time where you felt like you were supposed to be doing something else? Like, where, like, for me example, in college, because like, we almost have like an identity crisis. Like, you’re just like, This is not what I’m supposed to do.
Christian Payton 20:41
Like, that’s me every day. I’m like, That’s me every single day.
Sarah Haines 20:44
I feel like I’m constantly just thinking, Am I bored? Or am I just being consistent? And then from there? If I’ve figured out Yeah, I am bored, then maybe it is time to move on. But, and sometimes I actually questioned myself, whenever I feel like I’m not doing a good job of it, too. I’m like, this is time just to throw in the towel. It’s like, oh, yeah, no, that’s just giving up. So
Christian Payton 21:17
I’m sorry, what was the question?
Mikayla Anderson 21:19
Like, has there been a time where you had identity? Oh,
Christian Payton 21:22
yeah. Um, I feel like that’s never ending for me. I feel like it’s probably a normal feeling for a lot of people our age, like being so young. I think for me, like, that happened when I’m like, very, like, when I’m being extremely anal, and like, super hard on myself. I keep losing my train of thought. That happens for me when I’m being extremely hard on myself. And I feel like I’m not living my purpose. That’s what it is. That’s what I was trying to say. Because that’s something that’s really big for me is like, doing the work that God created me to do. So they say, but just being like a decent human being, and like, helping other people. So sometimes, like being here, I’m like, I’m not helping people. Like, because I’m like, sitting behind a desk, like at a computer, I’m like, I’m not living up to my purpose. That’s not true. So I like have those moments, often. But then it’s like, again, having to tell yourself, well, no, because when you think about it, this is helping you get to the next, like, the the smallest of tasks that you do every single day, and will help you like, get to where you’re trying to go in life, but you just have to, like, constantly remind yourself that like, no, I need this, like this lesson is valuable, even if you don’t really see the value in it. And, and, and being intentional about like trying to learn what the value is and what you’re doing. Right? If you just if you’re just looking at it, like I hate this, like, they’re like this, this isn’t worth my time, right, you’ll never learn the lesson. So you’re gonna always end up, even if you leave this place, you’re gonna always end up in a place just like that, because you have not learned the lesson that you’re supposed to learn. I feel like
Mikayla Anderson 23:21
that’s a big thing. I don’t want to say for our generation, but every single person, or most people have this mindset of like, I want to change the world. And especially with like, all of like, I don’t want to say protests, but like actually standing up and like saying something. Like, there’s a lot of that throughout, like different parts of our generation, which is really good. But a lot of that comes with like, there’s so much of our personalities that are hard on ourselves. And so, at that point, you’re just like, constantly questioning yourself. Like, you’re just like, okay, is this what I want to do? Whether it be like, you’re questioning your career, your personality, your like, religion, your sexuality, like all these different things, like, that’s why all of this is stirring up. Because before like, if you think about like, our parents generation, they didn’t have all of these different things that were talked about, because nobody was, quote, unquote, questioning them.
Christian Payton 24:44
I think that that’s very true, what you’re saying but with us, like we have this victim mentality about our generation, and nobody wants to work like and I don’t mean in the sense that I said earlier, like, I don’t want to work. I mean Like, literally everybody wants to be their own boss, everybody wants to be an entrepreneur. Everybody cannot be an entrepreneur, everybody cannot be their own boss. Not everybody’s meant to be a leader. And that’s okay. Like, sometimes there is power and being a follower. A lot of us have missed that. So we’re like, we want to do things our own way. We want to start our own things. I’m like, really? Like, asking yourself, like, how
Mikayla Anderson 25:24
does that work? Right? A lot of time, like, as hard as it is, like, I, I had some friends in high school that were like, Oh, I’m gonna go do this. And, you know, when like, somebody tells you something, and you’re like, watching it fail. And you’re like, that’s not gonna work. Like sometimes you just have to let it happen.
Christian Payton 25:46
Most definitely. A lot of the times people don’t. I’m seeing for myself. People don’t want to do the footwork. Mm hmm. People want to like jump out there and immediately, like have success. Yeah. That’s not real. Right. Oh,
Sarah Haines 26:01
kind of feeds with our like, need to have everything right now. Exactly. I mean, we have so many devices that give us exactly what we want. Right? The instant gratification. Yeah. And so it just seems like it’s
Mikayla Anderson 26:14
Yeah. Well, none that also goes into like, I don’t even know, like, I’ve never seen so many. I don’t know if this is normal with like other generations, but so many young people getting married, and having kids and, like, buying real estate this young. Like, that’s really great.
Christian Payton 26:38
It’s huge. Yeah, that’s, that’s really, really good. That’s really, really good. I think the the real estate is really good. Not saying that the marriage isn’t good, because that’s huge. That’s a huge as well. But the real estate, I feel like that that’s like huge, because that’s the biggest purchase most people are ever going to have in their lifetime is buying a home. But I think like the marriage and kids like being in a South, that’s all I’ve ever seen. So that’s pretty, like it’s really traditional and normal here. Getting married young having babies. That’s completely normal.
Mikayla Anderson 27:09
Obviously, there’s a lot of factors that can affect what you do.
Christian Payton 27:13
Most definitely.
Mikayla Anderson 27:15
And so Has there ever been a time where you feel like, you’re not challenging yourself enough to get where you want to be to for your dream job organization? Whatever it might be? Have you felt like, you kind of hit a plateau? And you don’t whether you even don’t know? Or you just are, I don’t want to say lazy but lazy or just passing time.
Sarah Haines 27:45
And not inspired? Yeah.
Christian Payton 27:47
Right now, I would say no, I said I was gonna give a shout out in my boot. I’m gonna give a shout out to my boo. I’m literally always working or thinking about like, some type of work. So I would say no right now, but I have felt that way before. Just not wanting to like try something new because of like, being scared of the outcome. That’s 100% That blew my answer. Like in college, like, I wasn’t someone that climactic knowledge, I wasn’t someone that like would. When I lived in Lafayette, I was more active. But what I was at at LSU is like, there wasn’t a bunch of stuff going on. But like the stuff that was like, it was just kind of like, I don’t want to put myself out there because of like, the fear of rejection. Or the fear of not being good, or the fear of like, not being good enough. Or like there’s already someone that’s doing that, or like you can tell yourself a million different things. And then like yourself gonna believe it and you just won’t, and then you’ll never try. So I’ve definitely been there before. I
Sarah Haines 28:59
feel like it’s really hard for me to be satisfied with myself. Mm hmm. Things ever should be. Yeah, I’m
Christian Payton 29:05
not 100% Like, I made it. This is it.
Sarah Haines 29:09
I mean, it’s even hard for me to to be like, Yeah, good job today. Yeah. Like sometimes it’s just like, a struggle to like, for instance, I can’t take naps, it is extremely hard for me to take me I’m the same way because as soon as I lay down, I think my to do list is right over there. And, of course, I haven’t finished everything because my to do list are pretty much impossible to finish. Because I’m just gonna go and cram everything I can for that day. And then whatever doesn’t get done, it goes on the next list for the next day. And so kind of builds up, but I think that I’m finally coming around to realizing that, like, my worth is not always in my work. And it’s not always what I’m doing. You know, it’s my intentions behind it.
Christian Payton 29:57
Honestly, I would challenge you to just like just Keep doing like little small things, like you really kind of makes you nervous. Because that’s That way you’ll always have that sense of high.
Sarah Haines 30:07
Like, you mean just like, like, What do you mean exactly
Christian Payton 30:11
like so you know how, like for a while you were putting off like getting a second job. And then you did that and like so like you have like this, like, set, like, I want to feel like hi, but it’s like, it’s like you’re excited. Like you’re like, okay, like I really am doing like, what I said I was going yeah, like, it’s almost like your life is I hate to say more purposeful, but you feel like I’m doing something good. So like, constantly challenging yourself and doing like something small, like every now and then I feel like that that feeling won’t ever go away. Like riding that high, literally continuously, even if it’s like the smallest thing like, like, I wash my car today. Like I don’t know, but yeah, yeah, just like that’s cuz that’s like, it’s it’s a great feeling like that’s like to get
Mikayla Anderson 30:58
something off your to do list that’s been on there forever.
Christian Payton 31:02
Yeah, or just to even feel like, okay, my life, my life really is like I really am doing something with my life. Because I feel like now we’re like, again, at that age where it’s like, you some of your friends are like graduated and they’re doing like amazing. Other friends graduated aren’t using their degrees other friends still in school. And then like, I feel like I’m somewhere in the middle. And then I’m sure I have friends that look at me like no, like, I wish I was in your position. But then I’m like looking at other people. And I’m like, so I’m right there in the middle. But to constantly be able to say like, Okay, I check this off. I’m doing this, I’m doing that. Like this. It’s almost like okay, well, I’m gonna, I’m getting to where I’m trying to go. It’s like, that’s like a nice reminder, like when you’re able to, like, do those things. Yeah,
Sarah Haines 31:49
I feel like because we can see what everybody else is doing nowadays. So much easier to be unsatisfied with ourselves, and also to make out that someone else’s life is better than ours. Especially because of course, I mean, most people put out the best of themselves on the internet. And I feel like that’s a big factor. Because I’m like, over here are 2516 year old is like, the most famous tick tock er in the world multimillionaire. Yeah. And I’m like, I will never have that amount of money. And I’ll never like have a comfortable life like that. It’s also like, do I mean, it’s not even compare, but I can’t even compare it to myself, because I don’t want to do any of that, like I would, I don’t want to do tick tock dances. Like that’s something that’s not appealing to me should always be comparing just what someone has. It’s like, what are they doing? Like with themselves, too? And are they benefiting like people around them? Compare that
Christian Payton 32:43
way? That’s a good way to gauge it. I think. Like, it’s just filling valid. It’s probably not because I don’t even know what so and so got going on, like outside of like what I’m seeing on their screen. Like I look at
Mikayla Anderson 32:55
people like you guys know who Mr. Beast is. You know, he’s like this big unvoluntary like filthy rich, I look at people like him. And I’m like, Is this really what he wanted to do? Like, you’re filthy rich, right? Good for you. That’s awesome. But like, where do you feel like, I’m doing good with my life? Or do you really just not care?
Sarah Haines 33:21