Episode 18 – What Does Success Look Like to You?

Show Notes

We have a NEW MEMBER joining the young+creatives team!

This week on young+creatives we sat down with our young+creatives team to discuss the meaning of success. What does it mean to us, how has it changed, and how our successes compare to others. This episode was truly a great conversation piece for our young team.

In this episode of young+creatives we cover several key topics including:

  • What is Success to you?
  • How Success changes through out your life
  • College doesn’t guarantee you Job Security
  • Our advice to feeling like a failure
  • Ups and Downs
  • Internal Success

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Revision Team 0:00
Welcome to the young creatives podcast brought to you by our vision Marketing Group. Young creative will serve as a platform to promote, discuss and give advice on Millennial creatives coexisting in traditional jobs.

Mikayla Anderson 0:15
Welcome back to the young creatives podcast today you have a full team. We have Michael RT, our IT support specialist. And drumroll please. And then we have our newest member of our team, Christian Peyton. Hello. So she is our newest marketing coordinators. So before we get into the episode, why don’t you tell us a little bit about yourself? Okay, so

Christian Payton 0:43
my name is Christian. I’m a recent graduate of LSUs Sharif or LSUs. This is true forte. I graduated with a degree in communications and a concentration of public relations. Okay, so I’m just pretty much all over the place trying to figure out what I love to do the most.

Mikayla Anderson 1:03
Yeah, that’s, that’s fair. I think that’s fair for all of us, though. So with that, in today’s episode, we’ll be talking about what is success and what it means to us and how we feel like we’ve achieved it as a team outside of work, or in different areas of our life. So I’m going to start with you, Michael. Um, so starting right off, what do you think success is? And why do you think that way?

Michael McCrary 1:37
I think. I don’t know. I think I really think that success is just kind of subjective. I think everybody really it’s different for everybody. And like I said, it’s it’s just it’s I feel like it’s kind of slower. I’m looking for like, esoteric, is that the right word? I don’t know. Kind of weird and cryptic, I guess is a better word. Yeah. It’s something that people are always trying to define, always trying to achieve. But it’s never is something that I think there is one concrete thing for so I think it’s more of the idea of the pursuit of something versus an actual, concrete thing. Right. But I think, you know, I mean, I think of full I think theoretically, success would just be living, living your life to the fullest, you know, like living a full life and being, you know, happy. I mean, that, whatever that means for you, you know, that’s, that’s that. So?

Mikayla Anderson 2:33
Absolutely. I can’t agree with that. Because I think a lot of people have troubles defining non tangible things like happiness and joy. And so it’s just like, a lot like, and it’s different for everybody. So Krishna, what do you think I would

Christian Payton 2:52
agree with both of you, I think that for me, personally, success is just being happy and feeling like I lived a full life and doing everything that my heart truly desires. So Beyonce has a song, and I know, they asked her in the song, what is like, what is success? And she literally says, to be happy, and I feel like that’s just like such a genuine answer. Success is just to be happy. Mm hmm.

Mikayla Anderson 3:20
Absolutely. And I think with that, though, it’s ever changed, like, it changes. And so like, for me, throughout my life, like success, went from graduating high school, to graduating college, to getting a full time job. And now I’m like, Well,

Christian Payton 3:38
what’s next? Yeah. I think that as you get older, what makes you happy changes because you’re constantly growing as a person. So of course, success is going to change or look different. The older that you get. But for right now, I would just say, yeah, just being happy. And of course, happiness changes, but I think we all would agree on that overall thing.

Mikayla Anderson 4:04
Absolutely. No, I can totally agree. And it’s just, it’s very different. Because going back to being such a young person, right, like success would be getting three pieces of candy at Halloween. Honestly, at one door, not Oh, yeah. Total.

Christian Payton 4:24
The big sizes shoe.

Mikayla Anderson 4:25
Yes, the big size candy bars, right. And so now success is so different. And branching off of that, I kind of want to get it a little bit deeper. So do you think success is now? How do I put it? It’s not as simple as it used to be. And do you think that makes it harder to enjoy the bigger things in life like I woke up today, or I have somebody in my life that really appreciates me. And how do you think that has been a factor in your life? Like without saying like, okay, like without appreciating the little things? How do you? How can you see your stresses build up or like, different things along that line?

Christian Payton 5:21
That was good. Okay, so I feel like success is or just like, appreciating or knowing what success is, it definitely is different now. Because I feel like we have all these outside factors or, yeah, we have outside factors like our families, with us all being like young people, we have family, I’m sure a lot of us have family members that are constantly telling us like what we should be doing. So we’re looking at the success that we think is like, Oh, this is huge. And it’s almost being belittled by someone that has lived all this life and has all these experiences. Whereas we haven’t lived as much live. So we don’t have we don’t have the experiences that they have.

Mikayla Anderson 6:05
Absolutely. What do you think?

Michael McCrary 6:16
Oh, no, I’m kind of one come up with an answer. I think I was I think I’m a little confused by how you asked it. Can you try? And we were

Mikayla Anderson 6:21
Yeah, a little bit. So how do you compare your big successes to somebody who has already maybe potentially done it, but who has already used see as being someone super successful? So if I’m comparing, like yourself, you get this like, huge opportunity with doing like, remote work for Amazon head person, right? And so versus somebody who did that, potentially five years ago, and now is moving on to something bigger than that? How would you say that, that has affected your life?

Michael McCrary 6:58
I mean, everybody, I think, hit certain milestones in their life and at different points, you know, everybody grows up and experience things, you know, a different way different rate. And, you know, sometimes we have ourselves, you know, we have a part to play in that. And sometimes we don’t, you know, things just happen, as it were. But I, you know, I learned a while back when I was in college, after I had like a really like a really big failure, actually, I was really betting on myself for something that I thought I had done something a lot better than, or maybe it wasn’t that I don’t know, really know what happened, but I lost an opportunity that I had. And I was really upset about it. And I was like, you know, I could be upset and I can be upset, and that’s fine. But I can’t just let this be the moment that defines me. My ability to succeed. So just kind of as a way to distract myself, like, it was a job that I wanted, that I didn’t get, and I was really, really hoping to get it. So like after that happened, maybe I was like, Okay, I’m not gonna let this define me. I’m just gonna go out and find another job. Right. And about three hours later, I had a job offer. So yeah, and I mean, that I had that was when I worked at Starbucks, and I worked there for the rest of my college years. So yeah, and like I said, I mean, you went from a failure to a super good opportunity. That’s now it’s like that got me through college. And you know, even then that’s always like a little just a job you can go back to and make some make some money. So you know, good skills. I don’t know. Yeah,

Mikayla Anderson 8:26
absolutely. And kind of branching off of that, I think, the way that we think about our successes need to be so flexible, because put it this way, like, before I met Trevor, I saw myself staying in Bismarck, like marrying somebody out in Bismarck out in North Dakota and having a job there and not moving across the country and all of these other things, but I would have never seen this side if I wasn’t open to it. And so with that, how, like specifically with you, Christian, how have you seen that in your benefit with your transition out of college?

Christian Payton 9:13
Um, being flexible is definitely something that I had to learn. It’s funny because a few weeks before I got this job, I pretty much like I had like a come to Jesus meeting with, you know, I had to because I felt like I was applying to almost every single thing that there was in the Shreveport motor area, and I just wasn’t getting any feedback. And so I had to tell myself that I had to, like take a step back and really appreciate the time that I was having to, I guess, like, grow as an individual before I had to be a professional or yeah, just before for hours before I had to be all these things that were expected of me, I felt like I needed to really appreciate the the moments that I was in. And so now I say that I would say go I’m sorry, I completely lost my train of thought. No, it’s okay.

Mikayla Anderson 10:24
Don’t worry about can you repeat your question? So how has the transition from college benefited you with flexibility and success?

Christian Payton 10:35
Honestly, I’m not sure if I would say that the transition from college have benefited me. I’m okay. From like, with success, aside from even being able to take time for myself to like, really decide like, what I would want to do you have life. Um, there’s so many like outside factor, like stress factors, so I’m not really sure if I really got to benefit from that, or from what I would think success was or what it looked like for me,

Mikayla Anderson 11:08
right. Okay. Got it. Yeah, cuz the biggest thing on me and Michael have talked about this before to how we went through the same thing that you went through applying job after job after job and how

Michael McCrary 11:23
many people I know who did the same thing. Yeah, it’s,

Christian Payton 11:27
it’s almost like disheartening, because you’re not taught that in school. That’s gonna happen. Like, you just think that, okay, I went to high school, did great in high school, went to college did great in college. So when I get out, when I get out of college, I’m gonna have I’m gonna have a job. And that’s not the reality for a lot of people like, and so then you start thinking, Okay, I’m not going to be like, I’m not successful, I’m not going to be successful, because this isn’t lining up the way it was supposed to line up. This isn’t what everybody told me it was going to look like. So you start feeling like a failure. But you’re not like, that’s something that I had to tell myself. What’s for you is going to be for you like, like you just said, Michael, the job that you want it that you that you didn’t get you started to, you know, get down on yourself, because you didn’t get it. But that job wasn’t for you. Like what’s for us is already like destined for us, I believe. And so that’s what keeps me going on the journey to success.

Mikayla Anderson 12:24
Absolutely go off. And it’s so hard because so many people go through this and I swear, you guys, anybody who’s listening, who’s like, this doesn’t happen. There’s three people in this room that can tell you this, this happened. Last, what two years? Three years? Yeah. And so it is so real and unique. Be so so flexible in your successes and

Christian Payton 12:57
be kind to yourself? Yeah, because it’s not going to pan out the way you think it’s gonna pan if it does, like, congratulations. Yeah. But if it doesn’t, which, I have to say nine times out of 10. It’s not. You just have to be like gentle with yourself. And learn to be flexible. That’s super important. Like you were saying?

Mikayla Anderson 13:15
Absolutely. Because the amount of jobs I applied, I probably applied to around 150 in the Shreveport area. I mean, I did it like, right, from September to January. That’s how many I did total. Yeah. But the fact is, is it was just like, I didn’t understand what was going on. And I constantly blame that on myself.

Christian Payton 13:39
And let’s not even bring up that this happened after or during a pandemic that nobody knows where we’re going to get out of. Yeah, so finding a job was even harder because of that. Mm hmm.

Michael McCrary 13:52
And college because I graduated in May of 20. So yeah, yeah, I literally like my last quarter at college was just COVID Yeah, that was

Christian Payton 14:01
every that was it a frenzy?

Mikayla Anderson 14:03
Yeah. And so long story short, your successes, whether it be out of college, going straight into the workforce, going from trade school, doing whatever it might be, make them very, very small from the get go, because those small ones are going to build up into bigger opportunities eventually. And whether it be like I got an interview, to I got a second interview to I got a job position. Like, just appreciate the fact that okay, things are working because I’m working towards my success if I really really want it right. And so, with that, how could you How do you guys like, what would you say to people that are going through something Right now, whether it be a job search, applying to schools, different projects, whatever it might be, what would you say to them when they feel like they just keep trying and trying and trying and trying and nothing’s working? I would say,

Christian Payton 15:15
like I said before, like, have patience, and don’t overwhelm yourself. Like, if you feel if you feel like you’re trying and trying and trying and like there’s just like dead end after dead end, like, maybe take a step back and reevaluate why you’re going after what you’re going for, what you want to do with whatever you’re trying to get or achieve. And try again, like, maybe try something different. But really just taking a step back and not overwhelming yourself. Because really stressing yourself out isn’t real, it’s not gonna help or fix whatever the situation or problem is at hand.

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Mikayla Anderson 16:37
Yeah, absolutely.

Michael McCrary 16:39
And what was the question again? I’m sorry.

Mikayla Anderson 16:42
Okay. So what would you say to people who are trying different things, and I just feel like it’s not going anywhere?

Michael McCrary 16:51
So I mean, the worst thing that people can say is no, I think and I mean, if you hear that a lot, and you can bounce back from that, like, you know, it happens and like you, I think I applied. And like this in a span of like two or three months, like 120 jobs. And, you know, same thing, and it was really hard for me to not beat myself up, and I kind of did. But the cumin point where I was just like, you know, this is just kind of part of it. And instead of focusing on how bad it’s going, I’m just going to kind of develop it into a habit until something works. And then in the meantime, just worry about getting by day to day, you know, making sure that you know, like, while I’m doing that I’m still like, I got everything else in a fair, so I can just be like, Okay, I’m just gonna keep this job search going and appreciate everything that I’ve got in the meantime, and just, you know, live basically, until something works out, you know what I mean?

Christian Payton 17:43
Absolutely. Something else that I did was, when I was doing like job searches, I would set a set aside a certain amount of time a day that I was going to apply for jobs, because I was not going to stress myself out all day applying for jobs, when I felt like all I was getting was nose. So maybe like setting aside a certain amount of time and then saying after this window, I’m not I’m gonna give myself like a break. I’m not gonna touch it. Yeah, I’m not touching it this

Mikayla Anderson 18:10
week, or tomorrow, or whatever it might be. And so with that, I want to go into what happens when you do achieve what you’re looking for, and how success can look after that. So I know, when we came up with this episode idea, me and Christian, we were just talking about different potential episode ideas. And she said she wanted to talk about, like, what success is, and I was like, okay, like, what does that mean? And she was, you know, I don’t remember what she talked about how her life successes were very nonlinear.

Christian Payton 18:56
Right? I did say that. And I feel like most people’s most people’s lives successes, not most people’s Nobody’s life successes are going to be linear, like nobody’s definition, or nobody’s success is going to look like the next person’s. And even like, my personal statements, you’ll feel like you’re taking a step forward, and then immediately taking a step backwards, that does not mean that you’re not that you’re not successful, or that you’re not going to be successful. It’s just like a learning process. I like to think that if I’m knocked on my butt, then okay, I didn’t learn the lesson that I was supposed to learn in this in this state, or in this, whatever. So, yeah, it’s not gonna be linear. It doesn’t look the same for anybody. Absolutely.

Mikayla Anderson 19:42
And so me and Michael have had a lot of these moments or revision, just with different programming things and coding and CSS and we could go on but Michael, how just give us an example of like how the that has like, really, really transformed, like, into appreciating the small small successes that revision?

Michael McCrary 20:10
Yeah, so sometimes it’s like, when I think in my experience those small victories that actually really mean a lot. So yeah, thereby making them big victories are usually like, when everything else has already kind of gone to crap, right? Like everything else is just, you know, falling apart. And just like things keep adding up. And then it’s like, you get one of them solved, or, you know, like I said, You figure like, one part of it out, and then it just like, that feels so good. Because it’s like you, it’s that payoff of like, okay, this, this struggle that I’ve done isn’t for nothing, you know, it was stressful, but it’s like that, for me, it’s like that relief of like, okay, well, at least it was worth it. At least I did what I wanted to do, like, it could be worse, I could have gotten by, you know, that, again, that comes in a lot of different ways. You know, I think it comes by knowing what you want, and like, being able to say, you know, I’ve achieved this thing, and it’s gonna help me get to what I want. Yeah. And I think that, especially for me, because like I, you know, I have plans for what I want to do over the next few years in my life, you know, going back to school and all. And I know, that’s a really big daunting thing. And it’s not something that I can just go to be able to do. But like what I see, like, you know what I’m doing now, knowing I’m working towards that. It’s like, okay, it’s may not be tomorrow, but you know, I’m everything I’m doing right now is setting myself up for that. So even if it takes all that time, when I get to do what I want to do not not that’s like that I don’t, I’m not doing things that I want to do right now. But like when you want to, when you finally get that big goal, that big, big thing. It just makes I feel like makes everything feel like worth it like every single high and low. I mean,

Mikayla Anderson 21:51
absolutely, there has been way too many times I can count on my hands and fingers have moments where me and Michael just jump up and scream because it was one line of code that really was like make it or break it for an entire

Michael McCrary 22:10
that’s always what it is. It’s always one thing or like one character. Yeah, one little, one little like piece of sand in the machine. And it just grinds to a halt. Absolutely. And

Christian Payton 22:20
listening to y’all just go back and forth and talk about this literally just like proves that what we said earlier that success changes as you as your passions, or as you get older or grow or whatever your definition of success is going to change because you’re both talking about success in coding. or small victory that work.

Mikayla Anderson 22:40
Yes, yes. Very much. So. Yeah, I mean, the biggest thing is, and I want to stress this is success is so like, non, I don’t want to say non reachable, let me tell you. It’s like, you feel like you reached it, but then you add another like, Okay, let’s do this next. And then you do that and then you’re like, okay, but we’re gonna do this next. And so, in reality, how do you really really really know like, Okay, I made it, or like, Yeah, I’m successful now.

Michael McCrary 23:21
Well, I don’t think I ever really feel like just like 100% successful but I when I do something that’s good. i It’s that sense of relief again, where it’s like, okay, okay, like, I got something, you know what I mean? Like something was nice.

Christian Payton 23:34
Right? I feel like really the ultimate success or feeling like you’ve just really been successful. I feel like most people won’t really realize that or understand it, the concept of it until they really take a step back and look inward, and then say, Okay, well, I I live this life and I’ve done X y&z I have no regrets. I feel like when you can live your life saying you have no regrets, and you’re pretty much grateful for everything that you know, you’ve been a part of, or that you’ve done. I feel like that’s when you can say, Okay, I’ve lived a successful life.

Mikayla Anderson 24:12
Absolutely, yeah. Because as somebody who like constantly is like very, very self criticizing to themselves. It’s just like, I could be better at this or I could do this one other thing, or I should have taken on this one more project. And so even seeing like success in my way to say no, because I’m very much of a person where it’s like, yes, yes, yes, yes, I’ll do this for you. I’ll do this. I’ll do that. I’ll do like whatever. But being able to say, I’m busy, or maybe if somebody else for this right now has like helped me so much. And I feel like it’s been helping me with like the quality of the work quality, overall quality of life, honestly. And so, how have you? How have you guys seen yourselves? Like, reflected on like your own being outside of jobs outside of coursework? All projects, all that stuff? How have you seen yourself accomplish something within you as a person? And how has that affected your life?

Christian Payton 25:33
You can take the lead on this one?

Michael McCrary 25:39
I don’t know. That’s kind of a Yeah, it’s kind of a deep question. Yeah,

Christian Payton 25:41
that was real.

Michael McCrary 25:49
I don’t know, I feel like the points where I feel like I know I’m doing something right. Or the points when things are like really big and changing. And, you know, like, people in your life are coming and going. And, you know, it’s like, you just trust your gut on some things. And then you just go Go for it. And you’re like, I’m just, you know, going to kind of let take my hands off the reins of life and just let things be what they will. And I find that always those points in my life, like, again, where I just kind of have that moment of like, everything will be okay, it’s usually very soon followed by just good things happening. Now that I’ve said, I’m probably gonna have a bunch of bad things happen to me today. But, yeah, I think, you know, I think I take I take kind of solace in that, because I think that’s one of the only constant and common things about humans, you know, being that we’re also different is that, that feeling of, you know, kind of jumping into the unknown, and, you know, having to learn to trust that everything is just gonna be okay. You know, that’s, I think something that a lot of people kind of lose sight of sometimes, is to just kind of trust in that sense of self preservation. At least for me, that’s how it feels for me.

Mikayla Anderson 27:14

Michael McCrary 27:15
yeah. I just I think, like I said, I think change is constant. And I think, you know, success changing everything like that, you know, it just means that you haven’t stagnated. Because if you stayed one way for the rest of your life, then it’s like, yeah, yeah, I haven’t lived. Like, and I feel, you know, I was talking, this was years ago, when I was in college. And I was talking to a friend of mine, who was a couple years older than me. And she was like, I think I had about just turned 21. And she had, like, just turned 23. And she was like, yeah, like, I know, I’m still going through it, but you change so much in these years. And every time like, now, like, I look at myself two, three years ago, and who that person was, and I’m like, Wow, that’s so. So not me. I mean, like, it’s there, like, parts of me that are still that person. But it’s like, as a whole, you know, as a concept. I’m a very different person. But that’s okay. You know what I mean? Because, I mean, the past is the past for a reason. There’s no point in trying to always focus on, you know, trying to bring it back, you know, because you can just take the good things from the past and take them with you into the future. They don’t have to just be the past hasn’t worked.

Christian Payton 28:19
You’re evolving. We’re evolving as humans. I agree with Michael though, with everything that he said, I feel like what you were speaking of, if I’m wrong, you can correct me but just like having peace within like, knowing that everything’s gonna be okay. Like, you just, you’re just gonna ride the wave of life. Yeah, like you’ve done what you can and then like, you just you sit back and you just put your hands up and you just you have peace and you know, that everything’s gonna be okay. At the end of the day.

Michael McCrary 28:44
Only thing you can control always is yourself, you know, and that’s it. That’s the thing like, like and do all that all. You know, the one thing you always have control over is your reaction to it. You know what I mean? Yep.

Mikayla Anderson 28:55
Dang, okay. Absolutely. So, yeah, man, like, you guys are incredible, honestly. And like, it’s been difficult to talk about, like, so we had an episode on the fear of failing too. If you haven’t listened, check it out. But just talking about that comparing to success, I think it’s so critical as young people to just be able to say, okay, like, I can fail, and that’s okay. And it might take a while for me to do this outside of my perspective, that I see it being done. And that’s okay. Because, overall, I think as young people, we just get ourselves worked up and worked up and worked up, and we’re just like, oh, my gosh, things aren’t going the way I thought it was or things aren’t going the way so and so wants it to Hmm. And that’s why I feel like I’m failing, because it’s not going away. This person is back Sneed to pan out. And so one more question have like, have you been in a situation where you’ve done something very non traditional, and your parents or your co workers or your friends are just like, that’s not how it’s supposed to be done? Or bla bla bla, like

Christian Payton 30:36
horse, I live my life the non traditional way.

Mikayla Anderson 30:40
And how is that? Like? made you feel? Because obviously you did that because you wanted to? And how has that, I guess affected you as

Michael McCrary 30:52
I just means I have no regrets. I mean,

Christian Payton 30:56
um, before I started here, I was working somewhere. And I just kind of knew that. If I didn’t leave, then I never would. So I left. And so

Michael McCrary 31:09
what happened to me in New Mexico? Yeah. And just being there. Yeah, not even just having a double just being and being there,

Christian Payton 31:16
and just leaving and not did it make sense to anybody, it didn’t really make sense to me after I did it. In the moment, I was like, this is the right thing to do. And a few days after, I was like, I did the right thing. And then like a week passed, and I’m like, still no job, I did not do the right thing. And my mom didn’t understand it at all. I had very few people that understood wide chose to do what I did. But looking back at it, I just kind of feel like sometimes taking the non traditional route and doing things that you know, are for the betterment of you as a person, you just got to go with it. Even if even if you can’t explain it or put it into words, but you know that in your heart of hearts, you’re doing it because like, it’s just for you like you like there are no words to describe it or explain it. Sometimes you just got to go with it. You just got to go with it sometimes, like with no rhyme or reason.

Mikayla Anderson 32:22
Absolutely. No, I, I did the same thing, um, did a very last minute elopement. With Trevor. That’s huge. And that’s very, very huge. And it was put it this way, it was really hard, because it was something I really, really wanted for us. But obviously, I’m going to go back and look at it and be like, my family wasn’t there. And that’s super hard, because I’m a very family oriented orientated person. But looking at the way that they support not only us, but him as an individual to this day, without, like holding that against him. Like, I know I did the right thing. And in the moment, was it scary? Absolutely. It was. But the thing is, is like I knew I had to do it. And sometimes, you know, you have to do things that you are either scared out of the crap for or you’re scared because you might fail or other different factors. But there’s a very good chance that you’re doing it for very reasonable way. Yeah,

Christian Payton 33:52
I feel like that’s like a key in becoming an adult, like doing things that don’t really make sense to other people. And being terrified while you do it. But still doing it

Mikayla Anderson 34:01
and holding a calm face while you do it. Yeah.

Christian Payton 34:05
And also, I feel like with success, like it’s easy to talk about failure, but we you should as an end, like for me personally, I’m not scared to fail, because I feel like it’s a learning process. I don’t look at failure as just like, Oh, I didn’t do this, or I didn’t do that or just like laid out on the ground. I feel like when you fail like you bump your head and it gives you the chance to really reevaluate and try again. So just really, redefining what failure is to you will help you decide what success is. Yeah,

Mikayla Anderson 34:44
absolutely. Got anything, Michael.

Michael McCrary 34:49
She says she said, Yeah, I just don’t have anything then.

Mikayla Anderson 34:52
Yeah, she hit it on the mail. So absolutely. So long story short, short. Success is very nonlinear. It comes when it’s supposed to. And when it doesn’t come when you expect it to. Don’t let that don’t freak out.

Michael McCrary 35:12
Don’t let it chop you too bad.

Mikayla Anderson 35:14
Yeah, absolutely. Well, thank you so much. You too, for joining or doing this podcast with me. I really do appreciate it. It’s fun. Um, but yeah, so we’re super excited. We got a lot of good content coming out within the next couple of weeks. We’re officially booked out into December already. So we’re very excited. But yes, so thank you guys for joining the young creatives podcast this week. Make sure you tune in next week.

Christian Payton 35:48
Thank you. Thank you.